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Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
the Denver Channel ^ | April 10, 2008

Posted on 04/11/2008 7:52:00 AM PDT by proud_yank

Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller

COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.

On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.

After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.

His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.

"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.

Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.

On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: co; crime; crips; diversity; gang; manzanares; youths
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To: fella
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41 posted on 04/11/2008 2:59:41 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
rotflmRao.

otoh, i PITY the kid. he has TWO cretins/losers for parents. in a few years, he may wish for "retroactive abortion" on BOTH.

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42 posted on 04/11/2008 3:03:00 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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43 posted on 04/11/2008 3:07:38 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: windcliff

ping


44 posted on 04/11/2008 3:22:58 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
At least they weren’t doing something really irresponsible like homeschooling without a teacher’s certificate in California.

OMG, that was a keyboard-killer!

Just when you think it can't get any worse out there.... Let's see, he is 19 and his son is 4. It takes 9 months to have a baby, so his age of siring the child would have been, at most, barely 15...

45 posted on 04/11/2008 3:42:04 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
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To: Albion Wilde

“....so his age of siring the child would have been, at most, barely 15...”

But he learned it in disciplined state schools, in required classes, provided by the best teachers in the world. It’s for the children.....

See, the system works.


46 posted on 04/11/2008 4:54:21 PM PDT by Gator113 (Obama has "changed" me. I am now "a Typical White Person”.)
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To: Gator113

He must have been absent the day they demonstrated condoms and bananas.


47 posted on 04/11/2008 4:56:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
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To: Albion Wilde

And think about it...the mother is even younger.


48 posted on 04/11/2008 5:03:02 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
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To: 2001convSVT

Word.


49 posted on 04/11/2008 5:06:31 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: television is just wrong

You are right. Generally the mob won’t bother you unless you make a bad deal with them. And they usually respected women and children (not all, but most). These gangs just enjoy the violence.

That being said; when I was a single mother of two toddlers and I was ‘protected’ in the projects. As a white woman with babies, they did stop a few predators (who would comment as I walked to the “you living up there alone now ain’t ya”. I was seriously terrified most of the time.

Proud to say that I only lived there a year until I saved enough for a duplex and then bought a home a year after that. It’s a tiny home, but it’s mine and I’m not on government support anymore.


50 posted on 04/11/2008 6:00:52 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Albion Wilde
OMG, that was a keyboard-killer!

Thank you! You can thank the public school systems in the State of Maine, which turned me into a total smartass.

51 posted on 04/11/2008 6:16:14 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: Southerngl

Good on ya, ma’am! the world should be full of stories like yours...and isn’t.


52 posted on 04/11/2008 6:17:54 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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To: proud_yank

I’m with pops on this one. Those blacks claim anyone with a single drop of black blood as their own. Not fair to a proud Hispanic gangstah.

</sarcasm


53 posted on 04/11/2008 6:20:52 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: proud_yank

As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain
I take a look at my wife and realize she's very plain
But that's just perfect for an Amish like me
You know, I shun fancy things like electricity
At 4:30 in the morning I'm milkin' cows
Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows... fool
And I've been milkin' and plowin' so long that
Even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone
I'm a man of the land, I'm into discipline
Got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin
But if I finish all of my chores and you finish thine
Then tonight we're gonna party like it's 1699

54 posted on 04/11/2008 6:31:56 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: proud_yank

Wonder which one of the parents will give the baby a gang tattoo first.

This is the next trend I’m waiting for, people tattooing their minors because they have run out of skin real estate of their own.


55 posted on 04/11/2008 6:41:07 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: proud_yank
they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'"

Myself, I lean toward the Crips.....I like the way their pants hang on their knees.

56 posted on 04/11/2008 6:48:06 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro

I think the cats have a better sense of survival. :-p


58 posted on 04/12/2008 1:51:22 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: television is just wrong
organized crime.

Only in this case it didn't seem too organized at all! Seriously, this would be good for quite a laugh if it didn't involve an innocent 4-year-old.

59 posted on 04/12/2008 6:27:25 AM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: proud_yank

Looks like the kid will be part of the Westside Ballers.

Too bad. No kid should be raised in any gang.


60 posted on 04/12/2008 6:51:39 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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