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To: WFTR
What do you mean by "enhanced?"

Probably exactly what you think, plastic surgery to the point the body looks false. I probably should have chosen a better word. Everyone does some sort of enhancements... a cut of clothing, eyeliner, minor things. But boob jobs... I hate to tell some women that unless you are an A cup, they are supposed to mash up just a little when you lay on them. (have you seen the movie Top Secret with Val Kilmer, there's a scene in there that shows what I mean exactly.)

I seem to remember some article recently that talked about asking different people to rate the attractiveness of various men and women. I can't remember whether that article was related to this study or whether I was reading about some other study. I mention that point because the question of what is more or less attractive is sometimes interesting.

For instance, most people would say that Catherine Zeta-Jones is a beautiful woman. I agree. I don't know whether you know who Brook Burk is, but she's also very beautiful. I suspect that most people would rank Catherine Zeta-Jones as more beautiful in the classic sense and Brook Burk as cuter. If I could have a "clone" of either of them, I'd rather have Brook Burk. In other words, I'd be picking "cute" over "beautiful." Obviously, she would be marrying ugly if she agreed to marry me.

Ok, I had to go look Brook up. I think both women are beautiful. And I am insanely jealous in the most postive of ways. :-)

What is attractive to the opposite sex is fascinating. The perfect people, the "10s" that are considered perfect by society at large.. I don't much care for them. Oh, they're great to look at, and don't get me wrong, I look! but in real life, I want natural.

Hmm.. it's harder to explain than I thought.. let me see if I can get the point made..words are such fallable things. :-)

For me, seeing the natural muscles of a man while he works.. that's sexy. Body builders.. not so much. The tan because someone works outside, that's hot (although I burn like the dickens so I have to get a layer from a tanning salon before going outside to burn like a lobster.) Crinkles at the eyes because someone has thoroughly enjoyed life, that's good. Totally smooth skin? Unless you are a baby, that's not natural or at least not natural to me.

Did you ever meet or see Texas Cowboy or COB1 as he was known before he passed? That man was a tall, drink of water. If he had been younger and free.... lol

But then, if money and time were no options, I might have some work done myself.. and get a personal trainer. (sheepish grin)

75 posted on 03/28/2008 6:33:14 PM PDT by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: RikaStrom
I think I saw Top Secret years ago, but I don't remember much. If I'm thinking of the right movie, the part that I remember is the guy digging a tunnel from his cell. Val Kilmer looks inside, and they show a shot from a four-lane highway tunnel. In any case, I think I understand what you mean about some elasticity.

I know what you mean about a certain degree of natural attractiveness. The other side of that coin is that modern life doesn't allow most men to have great looks as a result of their jobs. Ninety-five percent of my work is in an office. The harder I work at my career, the less I'll do to keep myself fit. If I don't do something unnatural like lifting weights, I'll have no upper body at all. Most guys today are going to be in that position. You will easily find guys who can design their workouts to look as if they were digging fences all day, but you'll find fewer guys who have actually done that work.

From my perspective, one appearance advantage that women have is that a woman usually doesn't have to do more than be fit to have a reasonably good physique. A woman can have a very nice body without having a great deal of muscle definition. She has to do something to stay in shape, but she doesn't have to develop a great deal. Except for those few guys who still must do a great deal of manual labor in their work, the rest of us must find some kind of exercise program to give us even a reasonable amount of mass and definition.

I could be happy with someone who was nearly perfect in my eyes. Again, my definition of nearly perfect might be more encompassing than some would imagine, but I can't see myself saying, "No, I won't pursue her because I don't want someone that attractive."

I know what you mean about wishing you had more time and money to improve physically. If I weren't so busy and stressed with work and other issues, I'd be in better shape. I don't need a personal trainer. I just need time and need to relax enough to let myself work out effectively.

83 posted on 03/28/2008 8:21:10 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: RikaStrom
Did you ever meet or see Texas Cowboy or COB1 as he was known before he passed?

I remember he passed on, but what was his cause of death? I remember that 68-69TonkinYachtClub was having health problems, but I never heard anything about Texas Cowboy.

106 posted on 03/28/2008 9:25:51 PM PDT by GOP_Raider ("Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man" -Nietzsche)
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