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To: Ditto
Preserving the Union.

Exactly. Not about slavery, as advertised.

How violent.

600,000 plus dead. Thousands of women, children and the elderly left homeless and destitute. Economic ruin. Thousands of square miles ruined. 11 states under military occupation and subject to the exploitation of human vultures swooping down from the north. The Constitution ignored and a powerful, centralized federal government ruling the people.

And all for the political ambitions of disHonest Abe.

Ho-hum, just another walk in the park for a damnyankee.

168 posted on 04/02/2008 11:17:01 AM PDT by cowboyway (Did I say that out loud?)
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To: cowboyway

The south lost and thus the slaves were freed.

Get over it.


169 posted on 04/02/2008 11:19:44 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: cowboyway

The south lost and thus the slaves were freed.

Get over it.


170 posted on 04/02/2008 11:20:41 AM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: cowboyway; x
Exactly. Not about slavery, as advertised.

Correct. From the Southern side it was all about slavery. From the Northern side it was not.

600,000 plus dead. Thousands of women, children and the elderly left homeless and destitute. Economic ruin. Thousands of square miles ruined. 11 states under military occupation and subject to the exploitation of human vultures swooping down from the north. The Constitution ignored and a powerful, centralized federal government ruling the people.

Let that be a lesson to you then. Do not start a war unless you're willing to live with the consequences.

178 posted on 04/02/2008 1:16:07 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: cowboyway
Exactly. Not about slavery, as advertised. ---- And all for the political ambitions of disHonest Abe

Allow me to rephrase.

And all for the political ambitions of disHonest Jeff.

For Davis it was not about liberty, states rights or anything other than slavery and the expansion of that institution as far as possible. To him, the Union meant little or nothing. Expanding slavery was everything.

Davis issued the first order to fire, not Lincoln.

And I am forever amazed at you people ignorant of our own history who attempt to turn it on its head to keep some idiotic sense of regional pride.

Davis and the the slaveocracy who put him in charge lead this nation to war in 1861. They were a highly profitable enterprise in human suffering who would have destroyed the nation for personal profit --- but you turn that fact into Lincoln being some evil genius for preventing them from doing so.

Learn some real history, including the economics that drove people like Davis to treason before you start tearing people like Lincoln apart.

190 posted on 04/02/2008 7:59:55 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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