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To: cowboyway
Exactly. Not about slavery, as advertised. ---- And all for the political ambitions of disHonest Abe

Allow me to rephrase.

And all for the political ambitions of disHonest Jeff.

For Davis it was not about liberty, states rights or anything other than slavery and the expansion of that institution as far as possible. To him, the Union meant little or nothing. Expanding slavery was everything.

Davis issued the first order to fire, not Lincoln.

And I am forever amazed at you people ignorant of our own history who attempt to turn it on its head to keep some idiotic sense of regional pride.

Davis and the the slaveocracy who put him in charge lead this nation to war in 1861. They were a highly profitable enterprise in human suffering who would have destroyed the nation for personal profit --- but you turn that fact into Lincoln being some evil genius for preventing them from doing so.

Learn some real history, including the economics that drove people like Davis to treason before you start tearing people like Lincoln apart.

190 posted on 04/02/2008 7:59:55 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto

The Great Slaver Rebellion of 1861 met a glorious and righteous end.

Descendants of the defeated don’t seem to like that.


191 posted on 04/02/2008 8:11:51 PM PDT by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Ditto
And I am forever amazed at you people ignorant of our own history who attempt to turn it on its head to keep some idiotic sense of regional pride.

History is written by the victors. The victors always see themselves as the 'good guys'.

Not subscribing to your 'rewritten' version is not ignorance and I will submit to you that the opposite is true.

including the economics

Do you actually know anything about that?

Do you want to discuss the "Tariff of Abominations" in the 1820's and/or the Nullification Crisis of the 1830's?

people like Davis to treason before you start tearing people like Lincoln apart.

Davis was never even tried for treason so I don't think that the likes of you can convict him here or anywhere else.

On the other hand, Lincoln’s war against the Confederacy and Southern civilians was all for money, company profits and government tariff revenues. A simple case of political pay back in return for the Northeastern manufacturing interests that supported the Republican Party and his campaign for the presidency. These special interests would have suffered serious financial loss if a low tariff Confederate States of America were allowed to peacefully, democratically and constitutionally secede from the United States in lawful state constitutional conventions of secession which were identical to the ratification conventions when they had joined the Union. The real reasons for the death and destruction of Lincoln’s War were covered up and hidden by historians who continue, even today, to deny the truth.

There you go. Economics.

200 posted on 04/02/2008 9:33:16 PM PDT by cowboyway (Did I say that out loud?)
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