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I am a Liberal. Before you BAN me, please read.

Posted on 03/19/2008 12:54:29 AM PDT by pdxliberal

Edited on 03/19/2008 12:57:40 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I was BANNED from the Democratic Underground (DU) today.

I was banned for posting the following thread:

Subject: WOW!!! Sen. Obama is playing us like a fiddle!

Text: Sen. Obama's team set up this whole Race debacle from the get go, just so that he would have the stage set for this absolutely stirring speech on race relations. I have never seen the race card played so brilliantly in all the history of American politics. BRILLIANT!!!!

If the media gives this speech as much play as the racist Rev. Wright issue, and they will...he will find the new momentum he needs to secure the popular vote in the dem primary, no doubt. This man may even be our next POTUS, judging by the brilliant political savvy his team is displaying and his heaping helping of charisma, he is looking very very good!

Can any of you see this backfiring? I simply can not.

WOW!!!

After being referred to as a "troll freeper," I wanted to join this forum as a liberal and see what it is you folks are all about. So, here I am, letting you conservatives know that there are liberals being banned by the [expletive deleted] from Liberal forums because we do NOT agree with the path Sen. Obama et al. have chosen. I am not the only one that has been banned for speaking out against these race card tactics.

Many of us are disgusted.

I'm sure it will not be long before I'm banned here too, but I will play by your rules until then.

Cheers,

Liberal from Portland


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KEYWORDS: ibtz; nobama; obama; trolltimer; wright
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To: pdxliberal

> I am one of those liberals that *strongly* believes we
> can not move beyond race until we disavow ALL racism and
> put a stop to racially dual language no matter who it is
> the spews it.

This would make you a classical liberal, which is probably a lot closer to a modern conservative than a modern “progressive”.

Classical liberals tend to be rational and can mount a passionate argument without maudlin emotion.

I’ve had many a pleasant and good discourse with classical liberals, discovering that we aren’t a whole lot different after all.


161 posted on 03/19/2008 2:45:00 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: jellybean; Grizzled Bear; Darksheare
Dang! Does that mean I have to let the midget go now?

The midget's been acting a little weird lately, anyway.

Is the socks rule is still effect?

The socks rule is always in effect.

162 posted on 03/19/2008 2:45:28 PM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: fanfan

“”...but most conservatives haven’t been banned from DU 8 times. 8 bannings over what period of time”””

Probably a year.

Oh, but you’re wrong. Ever read Dummie Funnies by PJComix? I am sure you have. I have read every word for years. There is a large following of trolls on DU. Some say as much as 20% of the posters at DU are LOUSY FREEPER TROLLS. I guess I am not a very good troll as I can’t keep my mouth shut and expose myself.
Some freepers have been banned more than me and have multiple screen names at DU as you can see upthread.

Many, many freepers have accounts there. It


163 posted on 03/19/2008 2:47:30 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: Tatze

Please don’t ruin a perfectly good rant.


164 posted on 03/19/2008 2:49:33 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: pdxliberal

Funny. I was banned from DU for saying I wasn’t gay.


165 posted on 03/19/2008 2:49:48 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: pdxliberal

It's a liberal! Burn him! Buuuurn him!!!

Welcome to FR!

166 posted on 03/19/2008 2:50:34 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: pdxliberal
Welcome to FR but just know that YOU are the one who is going to be “slapped with reason”. It might hurt a first but you will be glad in the long run. There are lots of freepers here who were liberals first and then they *saw the light*.
167 posted on 03/19/2008 2:51:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: fanfan; Darksheare; Grizzled Bear
"I must warn you, regardless of anything Darksheare tells you, there is no “Mandatory FReeper Initiation” involving a vat of tapioca pudding, jumper cables and a midget."

There isn't???

Darks!!!!!

Whoa! You believed him???

168 posted on 03/19/2008 3:00:59 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Time is Nature's way of preventing everything from happening all at once.)
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To: pdxliberal

Welcome to FR. If you write with facts and reason from evidence, you should be welcome here for a long time. Poster “LiberalLarry” has been here since 2001 and I often enjoy reading his posts because he is informative (usually) and thoughtful (usually) even if I may still disagree with him 95% of the time.

otoh, there is a bizarre insulting troll poster named “MurryMom” who is kept around FR as a kind of amusing house pet even though she virtually never makes an intelligent contribution to honest discussion. The mods allow her to keep us amused with her inanities.

I hope you will emulate more of the “LiberalLarry” model than the insulting “MurryMom” model — then you will likely be here as long as you still enjoy it, and you may even find it very worthwhile.


169 posted on 03/19/2008 3:02:24 PM PDT by Enchante (Eliot Spitzer, can your daughters be "high class" coke-whores for some Democrat friends?)
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To: darkwing104; Old Sarge

How’d we miss this one?


170 posted on 03/19/2008 3:22:49 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: pdxliberal
It does however sadden me that DU is apparently run by idiots.

Most of those who post there are idiots as well!

171 posted on 03/19/2008 3:36:13 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: Semper911
"The thing is, though, that as Americans we must be willing to defend the right of others to say and believe what they wish, even when they are spewing that which is most disagreeable.

It is possible to disavow an idea while still defending the right of (a jackass) to say it."

I would agree that Free Speech must be protected by the law of the land. However, I expect society at-large to operate on a reward-shun schema. Instead of the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright having a wealthy church with members as socially prominent as Oprah Winfrey, he should have long ago been shunned to the point of finding social acceptance among none but a handful of like minded sociopaths hiding out in some remote wilderness compound.

Some would frame the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright's dogma as patriotic dissent. Perhaps, his dogma would be socially protected and sanctified if his rhetoric did not color every reference to human beings with racial bigotry. I am not speaking of patriotic dissent here. I would posit that patriotic dissent is alive and well in every political party. There are lines in the sand, however, that encourage us to be socially responsible.

Racism is one of those lines drawn in the sand.

172 posted on 03/19/2008 3:37:24 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: Allegra
I am a jelly doughnut...stuffed with toenails.
173 posted on 03/19/2008 3:43:18 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: Monkey Face; Darksheare

He seemed so trustworthy.

What did I know?

I was new.


174 posted on 03/19/2008 3:46:21 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: pdxliberal

Welcome. Now I expect you will also “see the light” and become one of those liberals that realize the Clinton’s are scum and will do ANYTHING for power.

So many are nowadays that think Obama is the second coming.


175 posted on 03/19/2008 3:47:41 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Nothing in the Universe can convince me to vote for Juan McLame!)
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To: pdxliberal
Okay. I've combed thru the entire thread thus far.

First, at least you're TALKING with us, and not a drive-by post/rant-and-run type.

Second, as someone else defined it, you're a liberal, not a "progressive" - a classical liberal which is infinitely more evolved than what is out there now.

Third, you're articulate. A most refreshing thing to see.

We are going to have a lot of fun disagreeing with each other on issues!

Welcome To Your New Home!


176 posted on 03/19/2008 3:52:40 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: envisio; All
“”...but most conservatives haven’t been banned from DU 8 times. 8 bannings over what period of time”””

Probably a year.

Oh, but you’re wrong

About what, exactly?

Ever read Dummie Funnies by PJComix?
I look at the thread every couple of months. No offence to PJ, and the effort put into it, but I don't really want to know more about how moon-bats think.

There is a large following of trolls on DU.
You know this from all the time you spent there, right?

Some say as much as 20% of the posters at DU are LOUSY FREEPER TROLLS.

Who are these “some people”?
Paranoid liberals?

I guess I am not a very good troll as I can’t keep my mouth shut and expose myself.

I've noticed that. That is what bothered me in the first place.

Many, many freepers have accounts there. It

................It, .......yes, .....go on, ...it what?

177 posted on 03/19/2008 4:01:44 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Tatze
But I just can't stand DUmpster Diving more than a couple of times a months.

That is the problem. Some one has to watch them, but the Euroessence is hard to take.

;-)

178 posted on 03/19/2008 4:04:27 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: pdxliberal

Well, I agree with you, but there are those who say that brining up the Wright issue was in itself a racist act.


179 posted on 03/19/2008 4:13:21 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: pdxliberal; Allegra
However, I expect society at-large to operate on a reward-shun schema. Instead of the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright having a wealthy church with members as socially prominent as Oprah Winfrey, he should have long ago been shunned to the point of finding social acceptance among none but a handful of like minded sociopaths hiding out in some remote wilderness compound.

OK.

AFAIC, you're welcome here. You are speaking a common language, logic.

Allegra, do you think we should get this poster some socks?
I have an extra pair.

180 posted on 03/19/2008 4:15:16 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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