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I am a Liberal. Before you BAN me, please read.

Posted on 03/19/2008 12:54:29 AM PDT by pdxliberal

Edited on 03/19/2008 12:57:40 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

I was BANNED from the Democratic Underground (DU) today.

I was banned for posting the following thread:

Subject: WOW!!! Sen. Obama is playing us like a fiddle!

Text: Sen. Obama's team set up this whole Race debacle from the get go, just so that he would have the stage set for this absolutely stirring speech on race relations. I have never seen the race card played so brilliantly in all the history of American politics. BRILLIANT!!!!

If the media gives this speech as much play as the racist Rev. Wright issue, and they will...he will find the new momentum he needs to secure the popular vote in the dem primary, no doubt. This man may even be our next POTUS, judging by the brilliant political savvy his team is displaying and his heaping helping of charisma, he is looking very very good!

Can any of you see this backfiring? I simply can not.

WOW!!!

After being referred to as a "troll freeper," I wanted to join this forum as a liberal and see what it is you folks are all about. So, here I am, letting you conservatives know that there are liberals being banned by the [expletive deleted] from Liberal forums because we do NOT agree with the path Sen. Obama et al. have chosen. I am not the only one that has been banned for speaking out against these race card tactics.

Many of us are disgusted.

I'm sure it will not be long before I'm banned here too, but I will play by your rules until then.

Cheers,

Liberal from Portland


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KEYWORDS: ibtz; nobama; obama; trolltimer; wright
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To: pdxliberal

Welcome to FR.


121 posted on 03/19/2008 1:43:52 PM PDT by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: pdxliberal
but many more in which we will vehemently disagree.

We can agree to disagree without being disagreeble. Welcome aboard.

122 posted on 03/19/2008 1:44:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator (<--------Control freak Mod)
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To: Sherman Logan

Curious. Do you mean the Rev is racist, or that those who brought up the issue are racist?

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright is most certainly a racist. Hence I have developed the reasonable habit of ascribing his title and name with the adjectival descriptor, "racist."

The racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

I am one of those liberals that *strongly* believes we can not move beyond race until we disavow ALL racism and put a stop to racially dual language no matter who it is the spews it. It can not be any more acceptable for the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright to incite racial disharmony, sow resentment & anger, and stir racial prejudice from the pulpit than it would be for some racist Rev. of the Aryan Brotherhood.

We do indeed need to come together as people and disavow those in our community that strengthen the racial divide. We definitely should not be sitting for 20 years in the pews donating time, money, and favor to a racist Pastor and church with racist dogma, and *then* expect to be the postmodern leader and POTUS who brings us together and moves us beyond. This would be ridiculously hypocritical.

I want to believe this is possible. I want to believe that we can finally move beyond race. I want to believe that we can finally be free of people like the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright. I would love the idea that the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright could not spew his racist vitriol unless secluded in a compound in Northern Idaho somewhere.

I suppose that I just can not overcome the feeling of hypocrisy that exudes this whole campaign being run by Sen. Obama. It just reeks. Perhaps I have too sensitive a nose for a liberal.

123 posted on 03/19/2008 1:45:21 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: pdxliberal

Sorry. I did not format the html for paragraph breaks and I have submitted this reply three times, at least because I am not used to the delay. If my replies are being moderated prior to post then I would greatly appreciate it if all of the original replies were deleted except the one actually formatted with paragraph breaks. I will be more careful in the future.

Thank You.


124 posted on 03/19/2008 1:45:43 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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To: bad company

LOL!!!!!


125 posted on 03/19/2008 1:45:55 PM PDT by MarMema (kosovo will always be Serbian)
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To: pdxliberal
I am a Liberal.

I am a jelly doughnut.

Before you BAN me, please read.

Before you microwave me, please remove the plastic wrapper.

126 posted on 03/19/2008 1:48:36 PM PDT by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: fanfan

Should I not have?


127 posted on 03/19/2008 1:48:52 PM PDT by envisio (If you ain't laughin yet... you ain't seen me naked. 8^O)
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To: pdxliberal; Darksheare; callisto
Welcome.

You should do alright so long as you stay *reasonably* polite, *avoid* name calling and express your arguments in an articulate and (somewhat) rational manner.

It helps to think rather than “emote.”

In the spirit of bipartisanship I must warn you, regardless of anything Darksheare tells you, there is no “Mandatory FReeper Initiation” involving a vat of tapioca pudding, jumper cables and a midget.

128 posted on 03/19/2008 1:49:24 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: pdxliberal
You seem like a nice guy and an Honest Liberal in a Jerry Brown sort of way, I respect that. Welcome
129 posted on 03/19/2008 1:51:17 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Spitzer .."Yes I Can" !!!!!!)
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To: pdxliberal

Welcome to Free Republic. We actually have quite a few reformed liberals.


130 posted on 03/19/2008 1:51:44 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: pdxliberal
It just reeks. Perhaps I have too sensitive a nose for a liberal.

This suggests that you will not remain a liberal insofar as your conservative pheromones have developed sufficiently to discern such things.

131 posted on 03/19/2008 1:53:09 PM PDT by pilipo (I am officially a man without a country.)
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To: pilipo

The cure for “liberalism”:

some basic economic understanding (Thomas Sowell’s Basic Economics) to understand the concept of “incentives”

and the ability to reason instead of emote.


132 posted on 03/19/2008 1:54:38 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Grizzled Bear
I must warn you, regardless of anything Darksheare tells you, there is no “Mandatory FReeper Initiation” involving a vat of tapioca pudding, jumper cables and a midget.

There's not?

133 posted on 03/19/2008 1:54:44 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Heck, in 1966, I was working on our farm and didn’t work for pay. We did have a roof over our heads, beds to sleep in and something to eat. That was just daily life for farm kids.

Now how do you expect to play the victim saying things like that?

I myself was paid 'slave wages' in '73, at the tender age of 12, working my families snack bar 8 hours for $2.00 a day.

Someone must owe me something for my hardships. ;-)

134 posted on 03/19/2008 1:58:34 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: MrB
Sowell . . . . can the man receive enough praise? I think not.

Agree also that the book you cite is an excellent (no surprise) primer - and for more than economics.

135 posted on 03/19/2008 1:59:03 PM PDT by pilipo (I am officially a man without a country.)
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To: Allegra
I am a jelly doughnut.

A jelly doughnut with a sock fixation? Wow!

136 posted on 03/19/2008 2:01:45 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: pdxliberal
Between the two candidates, I would say that Sen. Clinton will be a much more difficult challenge for conservatives to keep from the White House.

Agreed. The wheels are bound to come off Obama's wagon sooner or later.

Clinton's team is relentless & she moves between throat slashing political rhetoric & 'you wouldn't hurt a girl' effortlessly, which will leave McCain unsure whether to s*** or wind his watch.

137 posted on 03/19/2008 2:02:31 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: CAluvdubya

Well...we switched it to a jacuzzi filled with warm custard. It just seems more “wholesome.”


138 posted on 03/19/2008 2:02:57 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: envisio

It’s not my place to say.

What caught my interest was your post to the new person, talking like you’d been a reformed liberal for years, yet you haven’t been here two weeks.

Perhaps you posted here before under a different name, or???


139 posted on 03/19/2008 2:03:22 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Grizzled Bear
To all Freepers:

It will take some time to go through and answer all the questions from different folks.

I am only able to give short spurts of attention to the computer.

Thanks for the welcome, the warnings, the questions, etc.

If you folks are up for having reasonable discussions I will be around for a while...

Ad hominem is not a weakness of mine, so there should be no problem there. However, I will quickly call someone on poor reasoning and faulty supposition. This might seem like ad hominem to the one being slapped with reason, but...

Well, let us see how this develops then.

Thank you again for the welcome, and I am sure to learn a thing or two while here.

140 posted on 03/19/2008 2:04:16 PM PDT by pdxliberal
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