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Why I Could Never Be A Paid Shill For The Feds
Gold Eagle ^ | 02/04/2008 | Jason Hommel

Posted on 02/24/2008 7:23:42 AM PST by Christopher Lincoln

On this Valentine's day, let us remember and pay a tribute to all people who love the Government, and while we are at it, let's pay tribute to the Government itself by buying a T-Bill !

Thank goodness most of America and the rest of the world still loves the Federal Government of the United States and the Federal Reserve enough to continue to hold about $30 trillion worth of bonds that are paying, on average, about 5% while inflation is about 17%.

Such Fed-loving bond holders clearly approve of all the spending habits of the United States government, by their actions of holding bonds, and willingness to lose 12% of their capital per year, and must fully approve of the institution known as the Federal Reserve.

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To: ridesthemiles
No idea about why SS went up only 2.3% but you can see for the rolling 12, inflation is 4.3% here at the BLS itself. "Core" is 2.5 (excludes food (5% last year ) & energy (20% last year))
21 posted on 02/24/2008 11:04:25 AM PST by rb22982
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To: live+let_live

4 years ago the cheapest pants I could buy at Kohls was $25 on a normal sale. Today I can get them for $20. I don’t know what Jack’s frozen pizzas are but I’ve paid on average $3.99 to $4.99 for tombstone/digorno for about 5 years straight unless it was BOGO. Anectdotal evidence doesn’t work really well for inflation.


22 posted on 02/24/2008 11:07:02 AM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982
Are computers considered durable goods? Housing, yes but they still would have to go down more to get back to pricing levels from five years ago even adjusted for five percent compounded for the five years. Clothes I am not seeing those kinds of reductions in the West. I can tell you one of my clients is a large chain of convenience stores. Their metrics are all way down except of course for fuel $$.
23 posted on 02/24/2008 3:06:03 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: Always Right
Rents in this area are up 5% since October. Why? Because all of those people who had a house repossed are now in the rental market. Rental pricing in the West is up all over not just here.
24 posted on 02/24/2008 3:08:05 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: mad_as_he$$

No idea about whether computers are considered durable goods or not. If you aren’t seeing clothing discounts, you aren’t looking at a lot of clothing merchants. Maybe they are just way down on the east coast, but I doubt it. True, housing is higher than 5 years ago but CPI is calculated based on the last year, not on the last 3, 5 or 10 years.


25 posted on 02/24/2008 3:17:24 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Mase

You cannot escape the fact that M3 is no longer reported. Sure, you can still calculate it, but they stopped reporting it. BTW, you ducked my question. How much has M3 increased, year over year, this past year?


26 posted on 02/24/2008 4:12:52 PM PST by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
You cannot escape the fact that M3 is no longer reported.

How does this fact prove that inflation is 17%? Do you think the fed is stupid and thought all they had to do was stop publishing M3 and all of a sudden the markets wouldn't notice that inflation was really 17% and not what they were reporting?

BTW, you ducked my question. How much has M3 increased, year over year, this past year?

If you understood how M3 was calculated you'd understand why most people use M2 to measure money supply growth.

27 posted on 02/24/2008 5:28:22 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase

For the third time, could you please give the M3 YOY money growth? Thanks in advance.


28 posted on 02/24/2008 6:13:30 PM PST by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: kingu
You're right - inflation is VERY low.

If you don't factor in those volatile food and energy prices...

Dude: they're taxing us through food and energy. Don't you get it?

29 posted on 02/24/2008 6:16:01 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: coloradan
For the third time, could you please give the M3 YOY money growth? Thanks in advance.

For the last time, why would you even want this information in the first place and, more importantly, do you even know the components of M3? If so, perhaps you could explain to all of us why they're relevant. After all, you're the one who originally suggested that it's an important number and that by no longer publishing the number, the government is somehow conspiring against us.

I'll be happy to post a chart of M3 if you'll tell us why it matters that it is no longer reported. You're seeing conspiracies that don't exist.

30 posted on 02/24/2008 6:32:04 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: coloradan

M3 increase is about 15% with M2 being about 6%. Inflation is not even close to M3 rate although it is near M2. If you factor in productivity gains, 4.5-5% inflation is probably correct, although oil is the latest bubble. When oil drops back down to 50/barrel (or less) which it will at some point most likely, are you going to cry deflation as loud as you do now with inflation?


31 posted on 02/24/2008 6:32:57 PM PST by rb22982
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To: an amused spectator

Food and energy have always been erradic. Look at the huge declines in energy from the mid 80s to around 2000. Food prices usually follow energy and other commodities. Energy prices are in a bubble right now. Food prices are going up for 2 reasons #1 is higher energy costs and #2 is corn/commodity prices in a bubble. It can’t last forever like that at which point will probably cause headline inflation to look very low but core to still remain 2-2.5%


32 posted on 02/24/2008 6:35:36 PM PST by rb22982
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To: mad_as_he$$; coloradan
You could not be more correct about the Government cooking the books on inflation.

August 2004: K-1 Kerosene for home heating - $1.75/gallon

December 2007: K-1 Kerosene for home heating - $6.00/gallon.

Just about 350% inflation more than 100% inflation per year. But, it's fuel, so it don't count...

33 posted on 02/24/2008 6:36:27 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: rb22982
See my post #33 - more than 100% per year over the last three years for K-1.

It's not "erratic" - the Greens are pushing the cost of energy through the roof, and it ain't coming down. My cost per Kwh for electricity doubled - so I'm paying MORE even though I more than halved my consumption.

34 posted on 02/24/2008 6:40:33 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: an amused spectator

Yup and I venture to say during the Winter this year that has been number on or two on many people’s top expenditure list.


35 posted on 02/24/2008 6:40:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
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To: an amused spectator
First of all, you are comparing a summer month where kerosene is lower to one on the highest month prices for heating.
Second, kerosene is a small % of energy used in America. My gas bill has gone up about 20% in the last 3 years and my electricity cost per kw/h have gone up around 12.
Third, it's not like the government is hiding inflation in energy as it has it up 20% just last year alone.
Fourth, we're currently in a commodity pricing bubble that will not last. I hope to see you cry deflation when it goes down but I doubt you'll say anything.
36 posted on 02/24/2008 6:43:40 PM PST by rb22982
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To: an amused spectator
See my post #33 - more than 100% per year over the last three years for K-1.
See my response in #36

It's not "erratic" - the Greens are pushing the cost of energy through the roof, and it ain't coming down. My cost per Kwh for electricity doubled - so I'm paying MORE even though I more than halved my consumption.

Bulls!ht that's it's gone up double per KWH int he last 3 years. Show me some images of it and maybe I'll believe you. Also, the greens are pushing up the cost but so is speculation, commodity bubble in general and heavily increased demand from China & India.

37 posted on 02/24/2008 6:46:01 PM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982
First of all, you are comparing a summer month where kerosene is lower to one on the highest month prices for heating.

Actually, I was giving you the date when I last could buy K-1 @ $1.75/gallon. After August 2004, I could never get K-1 for less than $1.95/gallon. Ever. Actually, it's kind of funny, because I was able to buy it cheaper than market for about a year and a half because I knew a place where the pump didn't have a "3" in the dollars slot for the higher prices - so it hung at $2.99 till it spiked WAY over that.

If you'd like, I could fish out my natural gas pricing (I supplement with K-1 for comfort) for the last 4 years. It HAS gone down from about 1.07 per unit to .71 per unit (average 10-14 units per day) over the last year, but it was above or close to 1.00 per unit for most of that time period.

Fourth, we're currently in a commodity pricing bubble that will not last. I hope to see you cry deflation when it goes down but I doubt you'll say anything.

Old-time Freepers believe in full disclosure. We've seen too many "omissions" in the MSM over the years, and know it for the hypocrisy that it is.

38 posted on 02/24/2008 6:57:06 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: an amused spectator
Actually, I was giving you the date when I last could buy K-1 @ $1.75/gallon. After August 2004, I could never get K-1 for less than $1.95/gallon

Still doesn't dispute my point about summer vs winter. Yes, oil and commodity prices in general have been almost straight up since Katrina happened. Commodities are going up but nearly everything else is flat or dropping or just slightly increasing. That's not to say that you can ignore headline inflation but you have to realize it will drop at some point and cause headline inflation to look near 0. If oil doesn't drop back to $50-60 a barrel or less, I'd be shocked. If we really do have a recession, I think oil may drop back down to $35-40/barrel.

39 posted on 02/24/2008 7:02:27 PM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982
Our city had a long term contract (15-20 year) that ran out last year. We were averaging .055-.058 per Kwh till January of 2007. It jumped to .113-.121 per Kwh after that.

I had a dip in costs for a time as I anticipated the surge in prices by instituting conservation measures, but now we're paying more for MUCH less usage.

I can't imagine what the oldsters in our town are doing...

40 posted on 02/24/2008 7:05:17 PM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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