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Message to the FRiberal RINOs: McCain is YOUR Fault!
Wagglebee | 2/7/08 | Wagglebee

Posted on 02/07/2008 4:18:27 PM PST by wagglebee

To all of you FRiberals out there, and that means all of you Rooty Rooters and Romneyites, it's your fault that the GOP is almost for certain stuck with McCain as the nominee. Now, I don't mean those of you who voted for Romney on Super Tuesday in an effort to split the vote, but the rest of you are culpable.

Conservative FReepers have spent the past year listening to the likes of you tell us that conservatives have "had their foot on the neck" of the GOP for too long. We were told that all that mattered was someone who was strong on terror. We were told that we needed someone with strong name recognition. We were told that generally the GOP decides whose "turn it is" and then nominates that person. We were told that we needed someone who can get independent votes. We were told that ANY Republican would nominate strict constructionists to the Federal bench. We were told that winning was all that mattered.

Now, some of you who said this were supporting Rooty, some of you were supporting Romney. But you were all pretty much saying the same thing: you preferred your candidates to a conservative. Some of you even got so upset with conservative FReepers that you ran away to start a RINO forum

Well, guess what? You were successful, though not in the way you thought you would be. It looks like it's McCain's "turn." But don't worry, McCain is a war hero and strong on terrorism (as long as we don't actually take terrorists into custody or try to keep them from crossing into the United States through open borders), he says he can get independents to vote for him, he says he will appoint constructionists, and most important, he has name recognition.

So, if your real agenda was to destroy the GOP, you very well may have succeeded. If your agenda was to create a "Democrat Light" party, you have almost certainly succeeded. If your agenda was to keep the Democrats out of the White House, you have probably failed.

But regardless of what your agenda was, you have harmed the United States of America -- I just hope it's not permanent.


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KEYWORDS: 2008; election2008; elections; mccain; rinos
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To: wagglebee

C’mon, while I was standing behind Romney I saw Duncan Hunter supporters bashing the guy. I know it may not sound strange but these Duncan Hunter supporters were bashing him as recently as earlier this week. Too many conservatives stood behind their guy long after he dropped out


61 posted on 02/07/2008 5:11:49 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://youtube.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: wagglebee

You can blame this situation on the Hucksters, because he is the one that collaborated with McCain, when he had no prayer of getting this far on his own.


62 posted on 02/07/2008 5:13:00 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: gidget7

How did the RNC play any role in those campaigns at all? Be specific.

The RNC does not contribute a dime to any candidate before the convention selects a nominee.

The common theme at this forum is that the Republican Establishment, whatever the hell that is, imposed this result.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Anyone was free to file, raise money and campaign. Many did.

Voters made their choices, not at the gunpoint of the RNC or the Republican Establishment, again whatever the hell that is.

I need some flesh put on the bones of this common assertion that McCain was foisted on us. What specifically happened, or is it just too convenient to blame all this on a boogeyman?


63 posted on 02/07/2008 5:13:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: tsowellfan; pissant; big'ol_freeper; greyfoxx39; Petronski; fieldmarshaldj
C’mon, while I was standing behind Romney I saw Duncan Hunter supporters bashing the guy. I know it may not sound strange but these Duncan Hunter supporters were bashing him as recently as earlier this week. Too many conservatives stood behind their guy long after he dropped out

When you were standing behind Romney, you saw CONSERVATIVES bashing a LIBERAL.

64 posted on 02/07/2008 5:13:42 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; KarlInOhio
I'm joining Ohio Karl & making McCain "my guy". Like the other candidates that I've resigned myself to voting for on the 19th, he should be dropping out of the race any moment now!
65 posted on 02/07/2008 5:14:15 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: Eva

I thought about bringing up the Hucksters, but there just aren’t that many of them around here. Same with the Paulistinians, they make a lot of noise, but in the end most of them are either too stoned or not old enough to go out and vote.


66 posted on 02/07/2008 5:15:13 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Donnaplume

If John Insane is elected president I do not believe his cancer will allow him to serve a full four years ... stress seems to help cancer in its virulence. The Veep will be very important for a Mc’Cane’ term.


67 posted on 02/07/2008 5:15:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: wagglebee

What, besides Romeny’s proclaimed conversions, is evidence that he was conservative. Rush and Levin jumped the shark. It might as well have been Rudy they supported.


68 posted on 02/07/2008 5:15:50 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Then came the "reaching across the aisle" --

McInsane has always been good at giving "reach-arounds" to the Donkeys.

Cheers!

69 posted on 02/07/2008 5:16:27 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: wagglebee
When you were standing behind Romney, you saw CONSERVATIVES bashing a LIBERAL

Yes, I saw conservatives bashing the last man standing that could have defeated McCain and you are right... they were conservatives bashing Romney so let's not blame McCain supporters.

70 posted on 02/07/2008 5:16:35 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://youtube.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: pissant
What, besides Romeny’s proclaimed conversions, is evidence that he was conservative.

Beats the hell out of me! He did more to advance LIBERALISM in Massachusetts of all places than any 'Rat ever dreamed possible.

71 posted on 02/07/2008 5:18:09 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Good riddance! They can go be DUmmies, WAnkers or whatever the hell else they’d like,

I've heard of DU but not WA...?

Does it stand for "Wikipedia Anonymous" ?

Cheers!

72 posted on 02/07/2008 5:18:32 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: tsowellfan
let's not blame McCain supporters

I'm not blaming them, it's the Rooty Rooters and Romneyites that brought this on.

73 posted on 02/07/2008 5:19:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Are you kidding? You just haven’t been on the same threads that I have. The Hucksters predominate this web site and they are largely to blame for giving us McCain.


74 posted on 02/07/2008 5:19:58 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: grey_whiskers

It’s mainly made up of FRiberals who played with the bug zapper for too long.


75 posted on 02/07/2008 5:20:18 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

No, it’s your fault and others like you who didn’t support the only conservative candidate left in the race who could have defeated RINOs McCain and Huckabee.

You fell for the spin that Romney is a RINO. Now you’re stuck with a true RINO: McCain.


76 posted on 02/07/2008 5:21:54 PM PST by tabsternager
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To: tabsternager

Yep, socialized medicine and homosexual marriage are certainly the traits of a conservative.


77 posted on 02/07/2008 5:23:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
I'd like to say that this is neither the time nor the place for recrimination...

...but I'd be wrong. Have at it! LOL!

I can't join you for the moment because I'm still trying to figure out how it came to be the slate we're looking at. Hillary yes - she's been after the office since her egg cracked in the pterodactyl nest. But Hussein Obama and John McCain? What weird and hideous alignment of the stars brought these two characters out of obscurity? Could it be a conspiracy by the world's most incompetent drunken cabal? Did Soros make a few phone calls while still under the dentist's nitrous oxide?

When you think about it, Hussein's the only one of the three who hasn't been met with screams by the roots of the respective parties, and only because he's such a complete tabula rasa that anyone can project anything onto his deliberately enigmatic image. You want foreign aid to yak milk fermenters in Mongolia? He's for it! Well, he didn't actually say he's for it, but he said something that might have meant something like it. Thus the glittering staircase to the very summit of power.

One despairs sometimes that those seeking office are (naturally enough) the ones who want it, not the ones we want in it. Frankly politicians make poor leaders and only marginally competent representatives anyway, and then only insofar as it keeps someone else from displacing their prime spot at the teat of the body politic. A Churchill, Reagan, Lincoln or Thatcher comes along but once in a very long time and those of us who are privileged to share a historical moment with them are doomed to disappointment by the general run of the crop. We can hope for better, we can demand better, but until we actually reward better we're going to continue to get what we have.

Me, I'm going home and opening a beer. That has been the rational response to politics from time immemorial, and I'm thinking Og the Caveman may have had it right.

78 posted on 02/07/2008 5:25:02 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: tsowellfan
I never once “bashed” Romney. I am however, one who feels an informed electorate is essential to freedom. In that intent, when I did point out the ways in which he is not and never will be conservative, it was with that intent. Never neglect to realize, as reader of a post, you have no way of deciphering intent, or tone of voice, in the typed word. Unless swearing is present, or name calling that is clearly malicious, the intent is not clear and cannot be determined to be nasty, or bashing. Once voters have the information, they can choose to ignore it if they want to, but it doesn’t change facts.
79 posted on 02/07/2008 5:26:11 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican! GoHunter.08)
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To: AuntB
there’s only one way to keep Hillary out now. Vote Obama.

And Obama is much more dangerous than Hillery.

80 posted on 02/07/2008 5:26:57 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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