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Half of gold in central banks gone?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | January 29, 2008 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 01/29/2008 3:56:47 AM PST by Man50D

U.S. central banks may have less than half the gold they claim to possess in their vaults, charges a watchdog group in an ad scheduled for publication in the Wall Street Journal this week.

As WND reported, the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, or GATA, claims the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury are surreptitiously manipulating the country's gold reserves by participating in undisclosed leases, according to an advance copy WND obtained of the ad running in Thursday's edition of the Journal.

GATA believes much of the borrowed gold out on lease will never be returned to the central banks.

"With the demand for gold so strong worldwide, it has become impossible to return much of the leased gold without driving the price to the moon," said GATA's chairman, William J. Murphy III.

"Most observers calculate central bank reserves are supposed to have about 30,000 tons of gold worldwide in their vaults, but we believe the amount of gold actually there may be more like 15,000 tons," Murphy said. "The rest of the gold is gone."

The U.S. Treasury denies the claim, insisting the stock is accounted for regularly.

"We want to expose and stop the manipulation of the gold market by the United States Treasury and Federal Reserve right now," Murphy said.

"The purpose of this ad is to wake people up in the investment world as to what is going on behind the scenes in the U.S. gold and financial markets," Murphy told WND.

He explained GATA has decided to pay the Wall Street Journal $264,000 for a one-time placement of the full page ad in the national edition because the financial press has not covered the story.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: goldbuggery; ronpaul
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To: Man50D

Why is this a problem? Print more money.


61 posted on 01/29/2008 7:41:36 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Travis McGee
When was the last verified audit of the physical gold in Fort Knox?

I wonder if there is a pile of paper IOUs there instead of gold.

Or bogus gold “lease agreements” for physical gold that is long gone, melted down to rings and never to return.

Travis, see my previous post on this. Sometime back in the early 70s or so (not sure of the exact year) there were rumors going around all over the place that there was no gold in Fort Knox. The government made a big production of letting a camera crew in to shoot some of the piles of gold bars and stuff, then made a big proclamation of "see folx it's all here!"

Problem is, they didn't tell you who owned the gold you were seeing. There is gold at Fort Knox. It just isn't ours.
 

62 posted on 01/29/2008 7:45:12 AM PST by zeugma (McCain, if you want to be sold out for a day on TV.)
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To: Man50D
Funny that this is coming out at the same time that a certain French rogue trader has been fingered for manipulating billions in funds.

He's out on bail right now and is probably at the roulette wheels in Monaco tipping the employees with gold bars.

Leni

63 posted on 01/29/2008 7:48:09 AM PST by MinuteGal (Keep Dr. McStrangelove from winning the Academy Award for Best Malefactor......Support Mitt !)
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To: Sender

To wit:
“Could you loan me $10, but only give me $5? That way I owe you $5 and you ow me $5, so we’re even!”


64 posted on 01/29/2008 7:50:24 AM PST by ctdonath2 (GWB wept for those who suffer. HRC wept for herself.)
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To: zeugma
The real reason we’ll never return to a gold standard is that we don’t have any to speak of.

A sobering thought.

65 posted on 01/29/2008 7:51:27 AM PST by ctdonath2 (GWB wept for those who suffer. HRC wept for herself.)
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To: Travis McGee
I saw that movie made by Aaron Russo: "America: Freedom to Fascism." He interviewed financial experts who claimed our gold was transferred to European central banks many years ago. Russo was really pissed about the secret history of the Federal Reserve. The passage of federal income tax laws in 1913 also was a favorite subject. 'Nuff said.

Russo made his first run for political office in 1998, when he ran in the Republican party primary for the governor of Nevada. He came in second in the primary, winning 25.9% of the vote in a four-way race. * * * Russo then joined the Libertarian Party in 1999, saying it was his "true political home." In 2000, he delivered a fiery speech at the Libertarian National Convention, calling Libertarians the "last, best hope for freedom in America." Russo subsequently planned to run for governor in 2002 as a Libertarian, but he was temporarily sidelined by cancer. Source

Russo died of cancer in August of last year.

66 posted on 01/29/2008 7:54:41 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ovrtaxt

Your timing is poor. You should have shorted the dollar a couple of years ago.


67 posted on 01/29/2008 7:54:47 AM PST by Busywhiskers (Strength and Honor)
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To: ex-Texan
Russo died of cancer in August of last year.

I gave him cancer, just to shut him up.

68 posted on 01/29/2008 8:36:06 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Travis McGee; DeaconBenjamin; Black Birch; RSmithOpt; M. Espinola; Calpernia; durasell; ...

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69 posted on 01/29/2008 9:07:23 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: Busywhiskers

Depends on how much you leverage, and where you place your stops.

You should learn about the Forex market. You can day trade with some degree of success.


70 posted on 01/29/2008 9:22:33 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I'm voting for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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To: Brilliant
We could sell it, use the proceeds to pay down the national debt, and save the interest on $200 billion.

If you believe that a global system of unbacked floating fiat currencies will last forever.

OTOH, after a fiat currency crash, the world might wind up with a system requiring some form of gold backing. In that case, the gold in Ft Knox might be seen as a form of insurance.

If you disagree, just point out one single case in recorded history where unbacked fiat regimes did not crash and burn to zero.

71 posted on 01/29/2008 10:49:30 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: zeugma

I’ll settle for physical possession. Push comes to shove, it belongs to Uncle Sam.


72 posted on 01/29/2008 10:50:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Man50D

I don’t think there is really any monetary system that uses the gold standard today. There is not enough gold in the entire world to support the amount of dollars that have already been issued.


73 posted on 01/29/2008 11:03:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
I don’t think there is really any monetary system that uses the gold standard today. There is not enough gold in the entire world to support the amount of dollars that have already been issued.

That would depend on what gold is really worth, as compared to an increasingly worthless paper dollar.

74 posted on 01/29/2008 4:29:05 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: decimon

“I’ve handled gold and can tell you you ain’t runnin’ nowhere with it.”

You aren’t kidding. I had the occasion to work with a shoebox sized package of gold. And far from running with it, we had trouble even moving it.


75 posted on 01/30/2008 5:33:26 PM PST by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Man50D
TIME TO DIG FOR GOLD IN THE ANWR!!!!!! Oh, wait, we cannot do anything in the ANWR. We might kill a bug or snail or something. Never mind. My bad.
76 posted on 01/30/2008 5:35:03 PM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: Pelham
You aren’t kidding. I had the occasion to work with a shoebox sized package of gold. And far from running with it, we had trouble even moving it.

I a few times handled gold as an aircraft loader at JFK. On one occasion I pushed a steel packaged bar of gold (much smaller than a shoebox) onto a conveyor belt to a couple of gents waiting for it. It was funny watching this large fellow grabbing it with two hands to carry it away like it was a stack of bricks.

77 posted on 01/30/2008 5:42:08 PM PST by decimon
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To: RoadTest

You’re a bit mistaken. Far from being a defender of the gold dollar, Lincoln was the initiator of a large quantity of fiat money with his Greenback issue. The coining of money has never left the Mint; there is no private issuance of coin. The ‘U.S. Notes’ that comprise the Kennedy part of your tale are nothing more than the echo of Lincoln’s Greenback issuance of 1863. They were finally retired after Johnson ended Silver Certificates.


78 posted on 01/30/2008 5:42:39 PM PST by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: decimon

Yes. The stuff is incredibly heavy. We are among the few who smile in disbelief at movies when a box of gold gets carried off.


79 posted on 01/30/2008 5:58:27 PM PST by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Pelham

You’re mistaken. Money is created by private banks called “The Federal Reserve System”, not our government. That’s my point and it is true.


80 posted on 01/31/2008 4:23:14 AM PST by RoadTest (Free Compean and Ramos now! Then exonerate them. Then shame their persecutors! DO IT!)
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