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My piece about Hunter ending his candidacy (Vanity)

Posted on 01/19/2008 9:51:57 PM PST by wastedyears

The things I could say to the Hunter detractors will give the Mods and JimRob massive heart attacks. But I won’t do that.

I do hope you’re all happy now. You, along with the others and the lame-stream media, have succeeded in forcing Hunter to drop out. After him, there isn’t any other Conservative in the race. No, Thompson doesn’t come close as he’s supported amnesty, campaign-finance reform and voted to give China permanent MFN status. You all have succeeded in forcing our absolute best chance of turning this country around to drop out. The one man who won’t sell this country out to Cuba, Venezuela, China, Russia, North Korea, or any of our enemies in the Middle East. The one man who WILL get the border fence built in six months; I’m willing to travel south to provide security in any capacity to ensure the fence is built. The only guy who would prevent more American jobs from being shipped overseas.

No, I’m not supporting anybody else for the Presidency. I intend to write him in for the Primary and General in CT. We’ve already lost our only chance to save this country.

Everybody else is just unacceptable.


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To: bushfamfan

I got a letter from that new group Trent Lott is trying to start. It had a little questionnaire, and to their credit, it did have Duncan Hunter’s name on the list of candidate choices. And of course, it asked for money. I wrote him back that I am not sending ANY money to ANY Republican who doesn’t support Duncan Hunter for President. I know it won’t mean a thing to them, but it made me feel better. I don’t trust any of them as far as I can throw them.


121 posted on 01/20/2008 9:43:23 AM PST by buckeye49 ( Duncan Hunter for President '08)
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To: wastedyears

How is it his fault when most of the MSM never gave him any attention to begin with?


So he’s dependent upon the MSM to promote him? What in the world ever happened to self dependency, self reliance, self promotion, etc. It goes back to his history not just what happened in the last year of his candidacy. He himself failed to establish his name among his peers, the nation, the GOP, the rank/file, etc. He was one of 435 not the leader of 435. A very big difference.


122 posted on 01/20/2008 9:59:04 AM PST by deport (Go Florida... --15 days Super Tuesday -- [ Meanwhile:-- Cue Spooky Music--])
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To: wastedyears

This sounds like something one of my teenage children could have written. They too have this blame shifting problem, instead of admitting real fault if it lies with them. Of course, that’s normal behavior for teenagers, and they’ll outgrow it soon.

Give Duncan Hunter credit, he stood up like a man and admitted that the fault with his campaign lied with himself. He took responsibility and didn’t blame anyone else. It’s a pity that this supporters don’t have the stones to do the same.

I don’t care how good you think Hunter was on the issues, his campaign was terrible and that’s a fact. It wasn’t a media shut-out, it wasn’t mean old FReepers not paying him enough attention, it wasn’t Rush’s fault for not endorsing him. It was Hunter’s fault either directly or indirectly for picking a campaign staff that was deaf, blind and dumb.

Hunter has been in Washington for over 30 years. He knows what talent’s available to run a campaign. He knows who’s who in that arena.


123 posted on 01/20/2008 10:34:18 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: ConservativeMind; bushfamfan

By your line of thinking giving up what we believe is acceptable for the sake of winning at all costs to prevent the Socialists from taking control of the White House. The major flaw of this type of thinking prevalent in the GOP is your are accepting what is perceived as just a little bit of socialism now to stop more socialism later. In the end you gradually have the socialism you are trying to avoid. I prefer to stop it now because later never arrives.


124 posted on 01/20/2008 11:43:53 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D
Look, being for Thompson is not like being for a liberal. He was the third most conservative person running (remember, Alan Keyes has also been considered in the running, polling below Hunter, but equally or more so, conservative).

My thinking is consistent and practical. I am behind the most conservative person left standing. Hunter helped carry the conservative flag. Thompson is the next best, but the only practical one in light of the lack of success or Alan Keyes or Duncan Hunter.

When talking with people about Hunter, many didn’t even know who he was. Heck, not that many knew right off the bat who Thompson was, despite having some poll standing.

We did not descend into liberalism in a day, a year, or a decade. The transition took decades. The transition back will take the same.

If you are to be practical, you need to keep this in mind.

125 posted on 01/20/2008 12:10:06 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: angcat

I have just about come to the conclusion that less than 5% of US citizens have the most remote clue on what it takes to run a country and what type of person is needed to make decisions for the best of the country and not themselves.


126 posted on 01/20/2008 12:37:00 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: ConservativeMind
Look, being for Thompson is not like being for a liberal.

The rest of your post lost any validity with the opening sentence. Thompson is not a Conservative period. He's conned you and many other people to believe otherwise. The result is the party once again sacrificing Conservatism in the name of compromise. It's a losing proposition.
127 posted on 01/20/2008 1:48:03 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: bushfamfan

“No doubt the media/Demonrats would fear him the most and they showed it the excessive way they avoided so much as MENTIONING him throughout this process.”

True. Hunter was the real deal, and they knew it.


128 posted on 01/20/2008 2:23:08 PM PST by Cedar
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To: processing please hold; Kevmo
Free Republic has been overtaken by RINOs.

It has been for a while, it's only now becoming obviously apparent.

Seems that way. Where's a good site for us now?

129 posted on 01/20/2008 2:33:05 PM PST by polymuser (Don't vote for Kennedy Wing of the GOP)
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To: vetvetdoug

“You have a far too optimistic attitude”

Probably so. Guess I hate to see the changes taking place in the U.S., getting ugly.

May be time for a third party since the GOP is heading left. A true conservative would have more of a chance with:

1/3 Americans: Third party

1/3 Americans: GOP

1/3 Americans: Dems


130 posted on 01/20/2008 2:36:35 PM PST by Cedar
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And maybe a site that isn’t Google-bound?


131 posted on 01/20/2008 2:37:54 PM PST by polymuser (Don't vote for Kennedy Wing of the GOP)
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To: Cedar

George Washington’s farewell address predicted our partisan decay spot on.

“I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.”

http://www.liberty1.org/farewell.htm


132 posted on 01/20/2008 2:42:26 PM PST by polymuser (Don't vote for Kennedy Wing of the GOP)
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To: polymuser; processing please hold; Calpernia; Jim Robinson

Free Republic has been overtaken by RINOs.
It has been for a while, it’s only now becoming obviously apparent.

Seems that way. Where’s a good site for us now?
***Maybe Capernia’s Bar of Integrity?
http://blog.barofintegrity.us/

BTW, it had become obvious to me when there was so much support for tootyfruityrudy on this website, which drove JimRob to finally open up the BugZapper thread. If Fred drops out, maybe JimRob will implement this suggestion I put forward on a couple of threads:

When all the smoke clears, if Hunter doesn’t get the nomination, I have one more suggestion for all of us remaining conservative freepers. It would make sense for us to have an idealogy score, a set of questions with rankings of how important the issue is and how strongly a freeper agrees/disagrees with it. We could all put these results on our home pages, so that when another freeper is debating with us (or us with them) we could just go to their home page, check their score on that issue & others, and realize “Ohhh, this is a Ron Paul supporter” or “ohh, this guy is a small l libertarian” or “ohh, this guy is a Big F FISCAL Conservative and a small l social liberal.”

It’s okay for FR to be inundated with RINOs or have a bunch of liberals posting here, as long as they’re up front about it.


133 posted on 01/20/2008 2:45:24 PM PST by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: Kevmo
...as long as they’re up front about it.

There's the rub.

134 posted on 01/20/2008 2:51:45 PM PST by polymuser (Don't vote for Kennedy Wing of the GOP)
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To: polymuser

Thanks for the link.

The Lord Himself also warns of evil times and wicked governments in Chapter 13 of the Book of Revelation in the Bible.

Wickedness has its time, but it also will have an end.


135 posted on 01/20/2008 4:10:40 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Man50D
succumbing to incremental Socialism by voting for the likes of Thompson, Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani, McCain or Paul.

Paul? There is a fair amount of legit criticism to be made of Ron Paul, but I don't think 'Socialism' fits the bill.

136 posted on 01/21/2008 7:36:24 AM PST by Sloth (I feel real bad for deaf people, cause they have no way of knowing when microwave popcorn is done.)
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To: deport

That is the case against Fred. You can only say that when there is fair play. Fred has only proven that he truly ‘can’t win’.


137 posted on 01/21/2008 7:50:57 AM PST by bushfamfan (KNUCKLEHEAD GOP NOT WORTHY OF DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Or you could just not vote. When the candidates left are really just as ‘moderate’ as the next and there really is not much difference between them because they will screw you as their records show as being part of ‘compromise’ you might as well write in.


138 posted on 01/21/2008 7:56:44 AM PST by bushfamfan (KNUCKLEHEAD GOP NOT WORTHY OF DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: buckeye49

Trent Lott is what is typical of the Republican party and that’s the problem. I wouldn’t have anything to do with any group Lott was involved with.


139 posted on 01/21/2008 7:59:29 AM PST by bushfamfan (KNUCKLEHEAD GOP NOT WORTHY OF DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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To: deport

“He was one of 435 not the leader of 435. A very big difference.”

As Chairman and ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, he has much more influential than your mocking comment. Other than being the zzzz-list actor, what did Fred ‘lead’ in the Senate besides campaign finance reform? You really are one to talk when you are a supporter of such an underwhelming man.


140 posted on 01/21/2008 8:02:41 AM PST by bushfamfan (KNUCKLEHEAD GOP NOT WORTHY OF DUNCAN HUNTER.)
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