Posted on 01/03/2008 6:12:02 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
In 1952, I was “talked to” by a zoo keeper cuz I was throwin’ peanuts at the monkeys on Cleveland Zoo’s Monkey Island!
"Even as a cub, she was noted for her "quick-tempered" personality compared to her more mellow sibling".
Tatiana was known as "grabber" among zoo employees.
September 7, 2007 article in SFGate by Patricia Yollin - Tidbits:
10 months after the mauling, the customary public feeding of the lions again took place.
"Before the mauling occurred, the feedings - which usually drew an enormous crowd of adults and children - would take place at 2 PM EVERYDAY BUT MONDAY, when the big cats fast."
"It was always a deafening experience, with feline roars and human screams filling the vast room."
Was the feeding schedule changed because of the holiday?
I don't know how to post the website so maybe someone can help out.
Not to argue the issue regarding inadequacy, but the fact that the tiger got out has no bearing on whether the enclosure was substandard or not. The standards are defined independent of the actual behavior of the cat - with the intention that following the standards would confine any enclosed cat.
I would agree that the animal’s escape is indicative of an inadequate enclosure, but do not know whether or not the enclosure itself was within the guidelines for such pens.
I'm not sure I follow you. The guidelines are there for the purpose of designing safe pens that the animal cannot escape from. You can conceivably construct a safe pen with lower walls than the recommended height, which is why it's a guideline rather than a rule, but if the animal can escape then it's not standard. The SF zoo had built a moat, which probably would have made the pen okay, if it were filled, but it was not. Moats aren't built to be dry holes.
“The names sound Hindu, Indian non-moslem to me.”
You might be right. But muslims aren’t known for their ethical treatment of animals. It’s a superiority thing!
Abdul:”I am better than a dog!”
Achmed: “Well, I am better than an American zoo tiger! Watch this!” Aims slingshot,,,,,,,,,,,,
San Francisco peninsula teenagers suck. Glad I moved out of there.
Just a hypothesis, but if it happened this way, punk #4 has no motivation to come forward.
Worst of all we know that the zoo staff immediately assumed that the loose cat was a tiger and that there could be four tigers loose.
That means that in their own minds, staff members instantly focused on the very enclosure the one cat escaped from.
Wonder why they did that?
Do you REALLY believe in our lawsuit happy society that if ANYONE was injured that they wouldn’t sue the you know what out of the zoo, if it was unprovoked?
People can “assume” anything. That’s not a crime. It’s looking more and more like only ONE was taunted.
I think it makes perfect sense to look at the enclosure when one has gotten OUT of the enclosure. As previously mentioned, the “guidelines” or “suggestions” on how high the enclosure can be are just that - not REQUIREMENTS. After 60 years of being in the zoo business, if this enclosure was sooooooooooooo dangerously low, I’d expect animals to be escaping all the time, wouldn’t you?
Of course I can't speak for you ... but I don't carry sling shots around in the car or on my person. I find that a tad odd. Also I'm NOT impressed with the criminal record of these three. Yes, I know, I'm not supposed to know that or dare call attention to that FACT but it does enter into the it and the "character" of these HOSTILE and UNCOOPERATIVE individuals.
“The height as it is now happens to be BELOW the guidelines. I’m really surprised that you could say that it was OK given that even the top administrator says it’s too low.
Do you perhaps sell large animal cages or something?”
So after 60 years of no escaping tigers ... suddenly “guidelines” are not REQUIREMENTS.
Perhaps you need to learn English?
A “guideline” is not the same as a “requirement”.
It sure sounds like you WANT to be an expert on zoos and cages ... although when it comes to animal experts, Jack has more knowledge than you’ll ever have on tigers and how they react to taunting and interact in a zoo environment.
Until we know their religion there’s no reason to speculate. All religions have their share of asshats. The age of the punks is a stage in life when many young males exhibit asshatlike behavior, some intermittently, some incessantly.
Isn’t posession of a slingshot in California a felony?
If the woman's timeframe is correct, the cats would have endured nearly 45 minutes of presumably escalating abuse before Tatiana (rightfully) snapped.
Jack Hanna retracted his orignal assessment of this event.
Conventional wisdom says that a lion can jump 12 feet straight up. Seeing that lions and tigers are nearly identical internally, it follows that a tiger can do this as well. Knowing this, the height of the wall was set just a little higher than the big cats could jump. And, this wall worked as the designers intended for nearly 70 years. Few zoo exhibits anywhere have been in existence for 70 years, so this is a pretty good safety record. Also consider this wall has been inspected over and over, and approved by certifying agencies for many years.
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And thinking of the possession of one is a thought crime in Kalifornia.
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