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To: muawiyah

“The height as it is now happens to be BELOW the guidelines. I’m really surprised that you could say that it was OK given that even the top administrator says it’s too low.
Do you perhaps sell large animal cages or something?”

So after 60 years of no escaping tigers ... suddenly “guidelines” are not REQUIREMENTS.

Perhaps you need to learn English?

A “guideline” is not the same as a “requirement”.

It sure sounds like you WANT to be an expert on zoos and cages ... although when it comes to animal experts, Jack has more knowledge than you’ll ever have on tigers and how they react to taunting and interact in a zoo environment.


213 posted on 01/03/2008 11:15:44 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh
Bravo! Thank you for your voice of reason!

If the woman's timeframe is correct, the cats would have endured nearly 45 minutes of presumably escalating abuse before Tatiana (rightfully) snapped.

217 posted on 01/03/2008 12:00:31 PM PST by repinwi (Don't squat with your spurs on.)
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To: nmh

Jack Hanna retracted his orignal assessment of this event.


218 posted on 01/03/2008 12:07:31 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: nmh
Turns out I am an expert on "rules", "regulations" and "guidelines". They don't exactly mean the same thing, but if someone claims something is a "guideline" and not a "regulation" and therefore need not be followed or obeyed, it's always wise to turn to the "rulebook" or "guidelines" to see what the "authority" is behind those "rules", "regulations" or "guidelines" and what penalties they can inflict.

Earlier threads contained information about how zoos are "regulated" in this country. Beyond zoning and building codes, they have an association that sets "standards" and writes "guidelines" for special zoo features such as cages, confinement areas, baths, showers, hot-tubs, moats, and furniture the animals might need.

Folks who violate their "standards" or "guidelines" might well find themselves "de-certified".

Now, as to "regulations", zoos have been quite successful in avoiding overt public "regulation" through laws and ordinances designed specifically to control zoos.

In the end, a 12.5 foot span was simply not enough to keep the tiger enclosed.

Whether that 12.5 span was indicated in a "rule", "regulation", "standard" or "guideline" is irrelevant. That's how high it was.

Turns out the "guidelines" specify something higher in any case.

BTW, next time you go to a "rule book" fight, bring an education and 40 years experience in the matter with you.

227 posted on 01/03/2008 1:02:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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