Posted on 12/12/2007 9:55:00 AM PST by Renfield
The ONE thing I bring away from this article is that the scientific community should never ever EVER question their own dating methods.
One problem that jumped out at me was the ~35,000 year old tusks MAY have been peppered with fragments ~13,000 years ago. Not likely for the simple reason that once exposed to the air, tusks begin to deteriorate. So what would have HAD to happen is the ~20,000 year old tusks MUST have been exposed ~13,000 years ago, THEN resealed to preserve them for another ~13,000 years. Did I miss something?
Thanks Blam.
ForGod'sSake: One problem that jumped out at me was the ~35,000 year old tusks MAY have been peppered with fragments ~13,000 years ago. Not likely for the simple reason that once exposed to the air, tusks begin to deteriorate. So what would have HAD to happen is the ~20,000 year old tusks MUST have been exposed ~13,000 years ago, THEN resealed to preserve them for another ~13,000 years. Did I miss something?That doesn't make sense to me either, I think the author of the article punched that up perhaps without realizing the significance (actually lack thereof) of the speculation.
43north: But wait! The extinction of the mammoths was due to greedy, evil pre-historic humans over-hunting them. Now this?:'D
gleeaikin: Note the date of 35,000 years before present. Also in the article there was something about 20,000 year earlier.The article speaks of the event 13,000 years ago, and of the earlier event 35,000 years ago (iow, 22,000 years earlier than the more recent one).
gleeaikin: It is entirely possible there was more than one of these events.The bombardment happened as the (last?) wave of debris arrived from a supernova explosion long before. There were a series of (three? Blam?) different bombardments which arrived at different times (due to velocity differences) from the same supernova explosion. The book concentrates on the Pleistocene mass extinction in the Americas. There were survivors, but they were in small isolated groups which just by chance were not bombarded, so the megafauna were effectively driven to extinction. The earlier events will be further studied, and this is the latest finding they've announced. There will be more.
No. But, I like the way you think and my heart would sing if you were to follow up with that data.
I had gotten the (wrong?)impression from other articles/posts on this subject, that Firestone et.al had moved away from a supernova explanation as a cause of the disturbance in the force. No?
Other big volcanoes?
I think there were several really big explosions of Vesuvius, including one around 25,000 ya. I did not see a crater diameter for them. The age on Barrington Meteor Crater is about 50,000 years, although it is not nearly as big as the 2 mile diameter crater they seem to have discovered in the Iraq Marshes (thanks, Blam). Still, I wonder what affect it might have had.
You may recall that I told a couple of you that I was accumulating data for writing something on catastrophes throught the ages and their influence on the development of life on earth. Because of the many new pieces of information I have received from you all in the past year, I may start out by focusing on the past 100,000 years and the development of modern man, and aiming it toward younger (teen) readers. I think there is enough for two books.
Ping.
"KINGSTON, R.I. – August 23, 2006 – An international team of scientists has found that the second largest volcanic eruption in human history, the massive Bronze Age eruption of Thera in Greece, was much larger and more widespread than previously believed."
Evidence Of Tunguska-Type Impacts Over The Pacific Basin Around The Year 1178 AD
Thanks for the ping. This is a very interesting and important discovery. It leaves no doubt that these specimens contain extraterrestrial fragments.
The authors are trying to tie together the 13KYA and 35KYA evidence, but that is speculation.
The Siberian bison survived the impact; therefore, the date of that skull establishes the date of one impact. The article doesn’t have the date of the Siberian bison skull, but it seems to be one of the 35KYA specimens. If so, there is evidence for two impacts, one at 35KYA and another at 13KYA.
Of course with what I misread your headline as, I was thinking Jessica Simpson had taken up skydiving.
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