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Military's Pandora's Box: HAARP, Advances In Tesla Technology
http://www.avalonhealthinfo.com/articles/46/1/The-Military039s-Pandora039s-Box/Page1.html ^ | Dr. Nick Begich and Jeane Manning

Posted on 12/04/2007 10:26:56 AM PST by Fennie

This article was prepared to provide a summary of the contents of a book written in 1995 which describes an entirely new class of weapons. The weapons and their effects are described in the following pages. The United States Navy and Air force have joined with the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, to build a prototype for a ground based "Star Wars" weapon system located in the remote bush country of Alaska. Unlike the protests of the 1960s the objections to HAARP have been registered using the tools of the 1990s. This article will will only give the highlights...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: haarp; iran; iraq; israel; military; tesla
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1 posted on 12/04/2007 10:26:57 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Ah yes another pot smoking rights thread.


2 posted on 12/04/2007 10:32:53 AM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Fennie

Nick Begich doesn’t even believe this stuff anymore.


3 posted on 12/04/2007 10:35:39 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Fennie

Please, oh please. Someone stop these clowns before we get another Al Gore (possessing no graduate degrees in anything, but feeling that he understands non-linear, chaotic modeling theory). The mere mention of “Tesla” just about says it all. Tesla did some good work with AC, and not much else. Perhaps some of these clowns should study the mathematics of a guy named “Maxwell”. He was way ahead of Tesla...and his math still works. (For liberals, mathematics is a subject study that does not exist in any of the departments where you got your “degrees” in underwater basket weaving.)


4 posted on 12/04/2007 10:35:47 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Fennie

Does it cause BDS? ;)


5 posted on 12/04/2007 10:37:15 AM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: Fennie
Doomsday, I tell you Doomsday
6 posted on 12/04/2007 10:37:20 AM PST by sticker
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To: Fennie

Another kook. He’s been on Art bell’s show and Noory’s show (Coast to Coast) many times talking about this. He’s wrong though.

(I can say that, I have a 40 year background in HF radio systems and I know exactly what they are doing with that station.... good grief)


7 posted on 12/04/2007 10:41:26 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Facts don’t affect conspiracy theories, they only make them stronger....


8 posted on 12/04/2007 10:48:31 AM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
(I can say that, I have a 40 year background in HF radio systems and I know exactly what they are doing with that station.... good grief)

They got to ya eh? You should have worn the colander!

9 posted on 12/04/2007 10:50:09 AM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: Fennie

Fennie, what on Earth are you thinking? I just looked at your previous posts, ALL conspiracy theories? Are you serious about this stuff or just showing the rest of the world what’s out there?

The HAARP stuff, by the way has been around since about the 1980s, and was if I remember correctly, classified at first. I’m not going to say here what I personally know since I don’t know about current classification on the system. However, I will say that the article and the book were written in the 1990s originally... and this particular article is being republished on a New Agey health site, which I find ridiculous.

The people that push this stuff have usually no medical training whatsoever, and furthermore, physics is beyond most of them because they are more concerned with METAPHYSICS (the art of seeing things that aren’t really there and completely unprovable).

So, for someone on a so-called “Health” site to be pushing this rhetoric which is out of their honest knowledge of physics is beyond the pale.


10 posted on 12/04/2007 10:51:13 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: OSHA

My mother always told me to use the colander, but I always thought she meant for spaghetti... /shrug LOL


11 posted on 12/04/2007 10:52:09 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: bpjam

Facts do confuse them normally, they start calling you names like “You brown shirted, jack-booted, government plant SOB!” (Hoagland called me those things, at various times in my contacts with him, though not directly, just mentioned those phrases on the radio and in posts, variously to attack those of us who disagreed with him and showed him some of his errors... which were NUMEROUS) lol


12 posted on 12/04/2007 10:54:49 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

“Ah yes another pot smoking rights thread.”

huh? You seem lost... Are you sure you are on the right thread?


13 posted on 12/04/2007 11:01:32 AM PST by monday
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To: Da Coyote

Good One ...


14 posted on 12/04/2007 11:10:06 AM PST by TexGuy
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To: monday

I mean... it doesn’t have to be marijuana. You could be on any drug to believe in this stuff.


15 posted on 12/04/2007 11:14:25 AM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Rick.Donaldson
"(I can say that, I have a 40 year background in HF radio systems and I know exactly what they are doing with that station.... good grief)"

Can you tell me what HAARP is? I have never heard of it except for some looney talk on Coast to Coast when I've had insomnia - and I seriously doubt the gov't is trying to fry my brain and make me docile since that's what TV is for. /s

16 posted on 12/04/2007 11:17:17 AM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

Very basically...High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, is what the acronym stands for.

Essentially, it’s a very high powered “HF” radio system, which can transmit between the frequencies of 2-30 Megahertz.

HF stands for High Frequency and includes the frequencies I listed above.

The antenna array is able to be aimed electronically (meaning they use various portions of the array to direct a beam of radio frequency energy in a certain direction).

The device is “said” to be capable of heating the ionosphere. The Ionosphere is a layer of electrically charge particles in the atmosphere and varies in height and numbers of layers throughout the day.

if you’ve ever heard an AM Broadcast station at night that is way past your normal listening range, that BC station is using the ionosphere to “skip” radio signals, similar to what a mirror does with light. (Technically it bends or refracts RF energy).

HAARP can change the characteristics of the ionosphere greatly according to some theorists in a manner allowing OTHER radio signals to bounce off of that position in the sky.

You can perhaps use your imagination as to what such a thing might be used for, but I’ll give you one idea.... using radar to look over the horizon.

Does that help a bit?


17 posted on 12/04/2007 11:24:09 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson; Fennie
HAARP should be looked at on this page
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu

not this one
http://www.haarp.net

It is SO secret that even Wikipedia doesn't find it "threatening", for goodness sake :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program

HAARP is often confused with Project HARP, the High Altitude Research Project (a joint project of The Pentagon and the Canadian Department of National Defence).

The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is an investigation project to "understand, simulate and control ionospheric processes that might alter the performance of communication and surveillance systems." Started in 1993, the project is proposed to last for a period of twenty years.

The project is jointly funded by the United States Air Force, the Navy, and the University of Alaska. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Apart from its unusually high power capacity, it is said that the project is similar to numerous existing ionospheric heaters around the world, and has a large suite of diagnostic instruments that facilitate its use to increase scientific understanding of ionospheric dynamics. Although fears have been expressed that HAARP could be used as a nefarious global weapon, scientists involved in aeronomy, space science, or plasma physics say these fears are unfounded.




18 posted on 12/04/2007 11:28:31 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Fennie

Let me guess....angels don’t play this HAARP?


19 posted on 12/04/2007 11:38:23 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives - Freedom WITH responsibility; Libertarians - Freedom FROM responsibility)
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To: penowa

To further elaborate on HAARP, the conspiracy folks believe that it is a device which is capable (in one breath) of “shooting down missiles” and (in another breath) a radio beam of energy which can have information embedded to control the thinking of the masses... in the third breath a weather control system.

I will say that in the 1970s the Russians had a device which was called “The Woodpecker”. I don’t think anyone really knows the exact purpose of the device, but most of us in radio believe it was likely used as a jamming device. It made a Gawd-Awful sound that was found in various places around the shortwave band.

There is also a theory that certain frequencies, in particular something around “8 hertz” (or cycles per second) is the frequency at which the human body, the human brain, and most other bio-systems on the planet happen to be resonant.

Resonance is a frequency at which you can cause something to “vibrate” in unison with the frequency being generated. Essentially, antennas are “resonant devices” and tuned to specific frequencies so they are most efficient.

BASICALLY, putting this information together, you get that the Russians (who actually experimented with some of this) were attempting to control, or change peoples thoughts by sending out frequencies on the radio. In reality, I doubt they did much in this field.

Also, folks want to say that HAARP is related to this sort of research somehow, but there is very LITTLE to suggest that generating HF radio energy affects in ANY WAY human brains.

I might actually BELIEVE (if I could see it action) that HAARP might be able to have a minor effect on the atmosphere, and thus to some extent the weather. HOWEVER, not to the point where it could necessarily stop rain, or generate rain.

I say that because in my many studies of various sciences, I’ve done a lot of meteorological studies (in conjunction with storm chasing, a hobby) and know that local weather patterns can be affected by ground heat for instance. HOWEVER, heating the atmosphere at altitudes higher than where weather patterns actually occur means pretty much NOTHING in terms of local weather.

In OTHER words, weather, storms can rise to several thousand feet. But the ionosphere exists ABOVE weather-affected weather, thus I believe that there is no basis in fact for weather control (except in the minds of those who don’t understand weather patterns perhaps).

Finally, generating an RF radio beam to “destroy a missile” is asking a little much from the energy of said radio system. As radio waves leave an antenna they are subject to several laws of physics, including something called the inverse-square law, which basically states that as the distance is doubled, then the energy falls off at the square of the distance (or something like that, damn I’m tired right now :( and not thinking THAT clearly )

So, if you’re trying to shoot down a missile at a great distance, by the time the energy reaches the missile, there isn’t much left to do anything. Not even burn out components in an electronics aiming system. No, no electromagnetic pulse there (EMP).

I guess what I’m getting at is that most of these theories hold little or no water, are based on ridiculous, ignorant theories of people who might know a bit about science, but are simply making things up as they go.


20 posted on 12/04/2007 11:42:08 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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