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1 posted on 11/07/2007 9:28:15 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

‘Don’t tase me sonny-boy!’


2 posted on 11/07/2007 9:30:25 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I swing a hammer from time to time. Guess I better watch out.


3 posted on 11/07/2007 9:30:26 AM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

What is it about cops not being able to handle senile old ladies?


4 posted on 11/07/2007 9:31:06 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

How big and how old is this stellar example of Chicago’s “finest”?


6 posted on 11/07/2007 9:43:30 AM PST by matthew fuller (Crop-circles, killer rabbits and UFO'S are caused by GLOBAL WARMING!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Well, emotionally disturbed people (EDP) with blunt weapons are a real danger. There was a time, not too long ago, where police got physical with people a lot more often. In many of those same cases today, they rely on non-lethal weapons. Cops get hurt less often. In a lot of cases, the bad guys get hurt less often too (pepper spray doesn’t “hurt you” but it hurts like anything), but not always.

It’s always hard to draw a bright line on when a weapon shoud be used.

All that said, there was a case where an NYPD ESU officer shot a woman named Eleanor Bumpers, who was an elderly EDP who was threatening people in her apartment with a knife. The police tried to use basically a giant fork to restrain her. It’s didn’t work (I guess never bring a fork to a knife fight, and another officer shot her twice with a shotgun. The first shot disabled her, the second killed her. There was a trial, centering around whether the detective fired a quick pair of shots as he was trained, or whether he fired the disabling shot, paused, and then “executed” bumpers. The officer was cleared. It is a great study in the use of force against people with mental illness.

7 posted on 11/07/2007 9:44:26 AM PST by NYFriend
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Completely apart from the issue of the police officers’ decision here, we should be asking stern questions about why an 82 year old woman who “suffers from schizophrenia and dementia . . . is easily confused . . . can be belligerent” is living alone with “officials with the city’s Department on Aging” dropping by to make periodic “welfare checks”. She obviously hasn’t been well for a long time, and if her relatives can’t or won’t take her in, the state should have put her in a supervised living institution a long time ago. Somebody whose mental condition is well known to render them unable to be held legally responsible for their actions shouldn’t be left to live unsupervised.


8 posted on 11/07/2007 9:48:15 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I don’t get it....was she swinging it menacingly? Just “swinging a hammer” isn’t very descriptive.


10 posted on 11/07/2007 10:11:24 AM PST by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I wonder what would have happened if they had just left her alone.


13 posted on 11/07/2007 10:33:21 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

These taser threads interest me.

Did you post this to Gen. Chat? Or did a Moderator.

In any event, see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922404/posts


15 posted on 11/07/2007 12:57:22 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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