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1 posted on 11/05/2007 2:33:57 PM PST by granite
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To: granite; AuntB

Doing the crimes Americans won’t do PING


2 posted on 11/05/2007 2:34:57 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: granite
Two illegal immigrants were arrested Sunday after one allegedly drove drunk and was involved in an accident that killed a Lake Elsinore man; the other helped him flee.

I don't believe this for a minute, our government would NEVER ALLOW ILLEGALS to enter this country....../sarcasm OFF

3 posted on 11/05/2007 2:35:53 PM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: granite

Hey, if the illegal had been given a drivers license this wouldn’t have happened.


4 posted on 11/05/2007 2:37:56 PM PST by SGCOS
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To: granite
"...the initial investigation indicates that Isaac Flores-Palacios, 32, was driving his employer’s pickup truck..."

His employer is in a heap of doo-doo.

8 posted on 11/05/2007 2:53:22 PM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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To: granite

Here’s my standard post. We can do something about this.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Here’s what I’ve been pushing: it’s time to file Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuits.

RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens like these 2 jerks.

Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place. The next time an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident or somesuch thing, I’m going to point out that the victim’s family might be able to seek compensation from the employer under these statutes in the hopes that it would catch on. If this did catch on, would see such a swift backlash against illegal immigration that no employer would go near these people and they’ll all simply want to go back home.


10 posted on 11/05/2007 2:58:59 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: granite

bump


15 posted on 11/05/2007 3:08:55 PM PST by VOA
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To: granite; neverdem; firebrand; Clemenza; rmlew; Yehuda

Isn’t it wonderfull that our NY governor SPITzer wants to give these people licenses so they can drive?


30 posted on 11/05/2007 3:44:26 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: granite

Gee, the Chicago Sun-Crimes editor says that we have it all wrong! Barf alert..

Facts show immigrants don’t deserve crime blame

November 5, 2007

Illegal immigrants get blamed for everything: rape, murder, robbery, you name it.

They are actually quite law-biding, as much as the rest of us, a Sun-Times report reveals.

They account for about 3 percent of the state’s population and an equal percentage of inmates in Cook County jails. Less than 4 percent of adults in Illinois prisons have been identified as illegal immigrants.

The perception holds that more illegal immigrants equals more crime. That view is bolstered by lies told by anti-illegal immigrant groups like the Minutemen. They claim 64,000 U.S. citizens have been killed by illegal immigrants since Sept. 11, 2001. That would mean more than half the murders in the United States have been committed by illegal immigrants.

That’s ludicrous.

Besides, the numbers don’t add up. The FBI doesn’t even track the data of offenders or victims based on their citizenship status. The data does show that nearly half of those arrested for murder or non-negligent manslaughter in 2006 were white. Only 1 percent of “criminal aliens” were in jail for murder in 2005, according to the Government Accountability Office.

Sadly, people tend to believe this anti-immigrant hype. They always have. One recent survey found most Americans believe immigrants boost crime. These same claims have been hurled at the Irish, Italians and Chinese at some point in America’s history. Today we scapegoat Mexicans.

We don’t blame all middle-age white guys for the crimes of John Wayne Gacy. We don’t blame all black men for John Allen Muhammad’s Beltway sniper-fest. We shouldn’t blame all illegal immigrants, either.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/635439,CST-EDT-edit05b.article#


35 posted on 11/05/2007 4:02:02 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


60 posted on 11/05/2007 6:24:27 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: granite
We were attacked on September 11 by foreigners who somehow got into this country and meant us harm. And harm they incurred indeed, to the tune of 3000 dead.

Our President stepped in with strong leadership. He said his first duty was always, at the end of the day, protect the American people from such terror and death on our soil in the future.

I am so glad that he has kept our promises, and that since September 11 little to no Americans have been killed on our soil, during this state of war, by foreign aliens here, and that he has kept all the violence safely from our shores and citizens and confined it to the Middle East.

/sarc

85 posted on 11/05/2007 8:46:05 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Visit this thread 1-hour from now. In that time, an average of 416.6 more ILLEGALS will be in the US)
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To: granite
I was just watching a video about an older case (from earlier this year, I think) of a girl who was killed by a drunk driver who was an illegal alien, and also about 'sanctuary cities'.

Here's the link - towards the end O'Reilly and Geraldo Rivera get into a loud argument that got super heated, I thought they were going to start throwing punches...;-)

More Americans Killed By Illegal Aliens Than In Iraq

87 posted on 11/06/2007 2:33:24 AM PST by incindiary
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