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Jury: Lisa Montgomery should be executed
Kansas City Star ^ | 10/26/07 | John Shultz

Posted on 10/26/2007 11:47:50 AM PDT by Huntress

Jurors unanimously agreed today that Lisa Montgomery be put to death for killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett and stealing her unborn daughter nearly three years ago.

The federal jury deliberated about five hours. If jurors had not reached a unanimous decision in favor of the death penalty, Montgomery would have received life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Before the decision was announced, the judge ordered spectators to control their emotions or leave the courtroom.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: animal; barbarian; barbaric; bobbiejostinnett; deathpenalty; lisamontgomery; murder
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To: Nathan Zachary

I think that you’re probably right, but I want to make sure. There’s a lot of issues where there’s no “rules.” We just have to seek out who God is and how He works in the lives of men.


21 posted on 10/26/2007 12:40:12 PM PDT by twigs
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To: martin_fierro

uncanny...which witch is which?


22 posted on 10/26/2007 12:45:32 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (sing after me......de-por-ta-tion cha-cha-cha)
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To: indylindy
I love your logic and mine runs parallel...

If the murderer decided that the death penalty was acceptable for him to impose upon his victim (usually in a horrible manner), then the murderer gives up his right to say that the death penalty is not also acceptable for society to impose upon him. IOW it is simply using the murder’s own standards toward the murderer!

Even society at large should see the simplicity of that death penalty Golden Rule logic....”Hey...the murderer was pro-death penalty for his victim, so what’s the problem here?”

23 posted on 10/26/2007 12:50:02 PM PDT by woollyone (tazers are the 21st century version of the rusty bed frame, car battery, & clamps)
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To: woollyone

I totally agree. Those that are against it get caught up in the criminal more than they feel for the victim. Why?, because the victim is no longer alive to tell of their terrible fate.

You have to put on the shoes of the victim. Nothing justifies murder.

It can be righted only by the murderer to end up suffering, most of the time, a far more humane end than their victim.

We can only mete out justice by human standards. In the end, all go to their maker. It is up to the criminal and God from that time on.


24 posted on 10/26/2007 12:57:15 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: martin_fierro

HOLY CRAP!!!!!! DAMN!


25 posted on 10/26/2007 1:01:02 PM PDT by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: Huntress

Has anyone read about the details of the crime scene? It was gruesome. The death penalty was made for people like Lisa Montgomery.


26 posted on 10/26/2007 1:01:26 PM PDT by SHEENA26
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To: Huntress

I’m sure some idiot judge will overturn the verdict. If that psycho woman in Texas who drowned her 5 kids didn’t get the death penalty, why would we expect it to stick for this nutjob?


27 posted on 10/26/2007 1:09:03 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Oh, the huge manatee!!!)
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To: Huntress

Almost 20,000 people were murdered and 1.3 million people violently assaulted in the US in 2006.

80% of these crimes were committed by repeat offenders, criminals who had been previously convicted of violent crimes.

There were only 53 criminals executed in that same time.

Every time a violent criminal is put to death, it saves the lives of 18 people on average.

Between 1967 and 1977 there were no violent criminals put to death and the homicide rate doubled.

Something to consider.


28 posted on 10/26/2007 1:09:24 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Eagles Talon IV

For those that are opposed to the death penalty, perhaps you should work to change the parole laws so that “life in prison” means “life in prison” -

otherwise, you’re simply sentencing these criminals’ future victims to death instead of the criminal himself.


29 posted on 10/26/2007 1:11:26 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

A minor correction to the assumption in your post.

The child lives. The mother was killed.


30 posted on 10/26/2007 1:12:30 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: twigs
This may help or may not. A Bible scholar told me that in the translation the term murder was changed to kill.

In other words, Thou shall not kill, was changed from , Thou shall not murder. I believe the original was in Greek.

We had a visiting minister use the original Greek word and explain how and why it was changed. It was a long discourse
and hard to remember it all. You might check with a Bible historian.

Also we Christians should realize that in God’s time he will destroy all evil and from what I understand the innocent will at that time also suffer.

31 posted on 10/26/2007 1:13:29 PM PDT by frannie (Fear not tomorrow, God is already there.)
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To: Huntress

Karma baby, what goes around,,,comes around.


32 posted on 10/26/2007 1:14:16 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: Huntress

I remember when this story came out. I don’t think she’ll actually be executed though. While Missouri is not a weak-kneed anti-DP state, you know the media will give the perp full-scale sympathy treatment if an execution date actually comes up. If it’s a Dem in the Governor’s Mansion, there’s no way he won’t commute the sentence to “life”.


33 posted on 10/26/2007 1:15:30 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (No Third Term For Bill Clinton!)
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To: Huntress
Let us know how “mixed” your feelings would be if this happened to, say, your daughter and grandchild.
34 posted on 10/26/2007 1:18:55 PM PDT by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: MrB; phrogphlyer; JustPiper; indylindy; wagglebee; martin_fierro; EternalVigilance; pissant

Thanks both for your comments—drawing attention to that contrast was my point exactly. Hillary’s minions kill the defenseless children and leave the ‘mother’ alive. In the case at hand the wretched killer ‘at least’ picked on someone her own size.

Both are horrible scenarios—but Hillary is reaping political-career profits from the continuing deaths of the defenseless and helping tax-subsidize millions of baby killings at Planned Parenthood.

Lisa will kill no more and isn’t running for political office.


35 posted on 10/26/2007 1:26:55 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: MrB

I would go along with life if it meant life as you said, but I have trouble with paying for the scum for the rest of their lives.


36 posted on 10/26/2007 1:28:56 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Excellent. The death penalty is far from being given out lightly.

People against it should consider the people that are the victims. They should consider the future victims of those that get out after committing murder.

Murder is taking the right to life of another, no matter whether the person being murdered wronged you, got in your way, or was just a vehicle for someones perversion.

It is a just punishment in these instances.

The murderer may really come to Jesus, but it is our job to punish those who take away the rights of another to live in the society of man, we cannot know if theey are truly repentant, they can take that up with God.


37 posted on 10/26/2007 1:30:02 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: twigs
The older I get, the more mixed feelings I have about it too.

I'm against it, not because of what it does to the recipient (I don't grieve for their deaths), but because of what (I think) it does to us.

38 posted on 10/26/2007 1:32:48 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Huntress
I am a bit surprised by this verdict. I suspected that the jury would not give her the death penalty because of the testimony surrounding Montgomery's mental state.

Seems to me it was the right decision.

39 posted on 10/26/2007 1:34:20 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Huntress

30 Whoso killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death by the mouth of witnesses: but one witness shall not testify against any person to cause him to die.

31 Moreover ye shall take no satisfaction (bribe/compensation) for the life of a murderer, which is guilty of death: but he shall be surely put to death.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Num%2035:9-34;&version=9;


40 posted on 10/26/2007 1:35:16 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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