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ALCS Live Thread: Cleveland Indians vs. Boston Red Sox
10-12-07
Posted on 10/12/2007 12:34:23 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
Game 1 @ BOSTON:
WEATHER:: Forecasts for tonight predict that the rain will cease enough to get the game in, certainly. It should be cloudy, with temperatures dipping to the mid-50s. Starting Pitchers
C. C. Sabathia (19-7, 3.21 ERA) vs. Josh Beckett (20-7, 3.27 ERA)
Game 1 LINEUPS
1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
3. Travis Hafner, DH
4. Victor Martinez, C
5. Ryan Garko, 1B
6. Jhonny Peralta, SS
7. Kenny Lofton, LF
8. Franklin Gutierrez, RF
9. Casey Blake, 3B
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. Bobby Kielty, RF
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Julio Lugo, SS
NOTES: This is the first time since the start of the three division era that the two LCS series have each matched the two best records in their league (96-66). Computer baseball sim Imagine Sports/Diamond Mind Baseball ran the 2007 ALCS 1,000 times, and the Red Sox won 59% of the time. If the Red Sox won game 1, they won the series 72.5% of the time, and if Cleveland won, the Indians won 59% of the time.
TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: americasgame; baseball; indians; mbl; mlb; redsox; yankeefreealcs; yankeeslostsoxwon; yankeessuck
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To: Petronski; NeoCaveman; misterrob; big'ol_freeper
Since Fox doesn't have the Curse of the Bambino to bring up, they will share with us all the Curse of Rocky Colavito (who was traded away for Harvey Kuenn), which is probably responsible for "The Catch," and trading Maris, too, somehow.
So, here's a primer on the World Series drought for Indians fans-- lasting since 1948 (the Red Sox and Indians finished with identical 96-58 records in 1948 and the Indians won the do-or-die play-in game to win the AL Pennant, before going on to beat the Boston Braves in the WS). That 1948 team featured Lou Boudreau, Bob Feller, Joe Gordon, Ken Keltner, and Bob Lemon in their lineup and the "rookie" year of Leroy Robert "Satchel" Paige (who did pitch in relief in the WS).
Willie Mays made his catch in the 1954 World Series against Cleveland...
Roger Maris traded away in 1957...
Rocky gets traded in 1960 and has a career season in 1961...
And trading away Tommy John (and 1966 NL ROY Tommie Agee) to get Rocky back in 1965...
Trading Graig Nettles in 1972...
Trading away Buddy Bell in 1978...
Trading Rick Sutcliffe in 1984...
The combined Rocky/SI cover jinx (the Indians lost 101 games in 1987)...
Glavine, Smoltz, and Maddux beat the Indians in the 1995 WS and Jose Mesa lost the 1997 WS for the Indians...
And then the Indians lost the 1999 ALDS to the Red Sox after being up 2-0 (which featured the 6 IP no-hitter relief appearance by Petey)...
Then the Indians lost 6 of their last 7 games and lost the Wild Card to Boston in 2005.
But, the postseason is about second chances. Let's play ball!
41
posted on
10/12/2007 4:08:37 PM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
To: Clemenza
Is it trash talking to point outNo, we can all agree on that. And we can all hate Fox together too.
I am dreading Buck and McCrapper.
42
posted on
10/12/2007 4:10:35 PM PDT
by
Semper911
("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
To: CTyank
I love listening to Remy & Don. Being out here in CA, we subscribe to the MLB Extra Innings to get our Sox fix, and I really hate it when we have to watch the game on the opponent’s station—especially YES. The Yankees announcers are the biggest whiners I’ve *ever* heard on TV.
To: Petronski
I predict the Tribe in 6, the Rockies in five.
I'd be pulling for the Tribe when they go against the Rockies, but am a little worried.
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posted on
10/12/2007 4:11:10 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: GraniteStateConservative; misterrob; raccoonradio; warsaw44; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; ...
GO RED SOX!!!
45
posted on
10/12/2007 4:11:38 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
To: Petronski
BTW: Isn’t it incredible how three of the top four MLB teams this year did it almost entirely with HOMEGROWN talent? Seems you can’t buy a team like you used to...
46
posted on
10/12/2007 4:11:57 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: Clemenza
Watchin' my Red Sox with a nice glass of Shiraz... ;-D
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posted on
10/12/2007 4:12:59 PM PDT
by
nutmeg
("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
To: Semper911
We Mets fans had to suffer through Timmy Mac for two decades. The only reason he seemed relatively interesting is due to the fact that he had Ralph Kiner as his partner in the booth. Kiner, of course, died in 1972.
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posted on
10/12/2007 4:13:20 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: GraniteStateConservative
That seems like a pretty nice ball park. Have the Sox been playing there very long?
49
posted on
10/12/2007 4:13:25 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
To: nutmeg
If you REALLY want to rub it in, you can tell me your Shiraz is from Australia. YEECH!
50
posted on
10/12/2007 4:13:54 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: All
51
posted on
10/12/2007 4:13:55 PM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
To: Clemenza
Seems you can’t buy a team like you used to... Tribe payroll: ~$61
Yanks payroll: ~$195
Schadenfreude: priceless
52
posted on
10/12/2007 4:14:44 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
To: nutmeg
Watchin' my Red Sox with a nice glass of Shiraz... ;-DWatchin' my Indians with one of these Great Lakes' Dortmunders
53
posted on
10/12/2007 4:14:51 PM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Cleveland Indians 2007, Fred Thompson 2008)
To: All
54
posted on
10/12/2007 4:15:00 PM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
To: GraniteStateConservative
Wow!
55
posted on
10/12/2007 4:16:23 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
To: Petronski
Travis Hafner homerun.... worth every penny
56
posted on
10/12/2007 4:16:33 PM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Cleveland Indians 2007, Fred Thompson 2008)
To: All
With this pitching matchup that could be the game.
We need Papi to match that.
57
posted on
10/12/2007 4:16:41 PM PDT
by
GraniteStateConservative
(...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
To: Petronski
Hafener smashes one into the stands, 1-0 Tribe.
58
posted on
10/12/2007 4:16:53 PM PDT
by
darkangel82
(All right! Let's go Tribe!!)
To: Petronski
59
posted on
10/12/2007 4:16:58 PM PDT
by
NeoCaveman
(Cleveland Indians 2007, Fred Thompson 2008)
To: darkangel82
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posted on
10/12/2007 4:17:05 PM PDT
by
darkangel82
(All right! Let's go Tribe!!)
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