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GM takes aim at Toyota Camry and Honda Accord with new Malibu
IHT ^ | September 27, 2007 | Nick Bunkley

Posted on 09/28/2007 6:17:37 AM PDT by vietvet67

DETROIT: General Motors solved one problem this week by reaching a deal with the United Automobile Workers. Now it hopes its new Chevrolet Malibu will help solve another - winning sales and market share back from its Japanese rivals.

For years, family sedans have been a lower priority for GM and the other Detroit automakers. They focused instead on big trucks and sport utility vehicles, which earned tidy profits, while letting Toyota and Honda dominate the less-lucrative market for cars.

But the best days for those big vehicles have passed, and GM is eager to break the Asian stranglehold on midsize sedans, with a redesigned Chevrolet Malibu set to go on sale Nov. 2 that it views as its most important vehicle in years.

The company is spending $100 million to introduce the new "Bu," as executives call it, significantly more than it has for any other car in recent memory. It has to invest heavily, experts say, in order to make a dent in the market led by the Toyota Camry, the country's best-selling car for the past seven years, and the Honda Accord.

"It's tough to get the broad American public to reconsider an American car in that price class," the vice chairman of GM, Robert Lutz, said at an industry conference in northern Michigan last month. "The Camry and the Accord have established, and justifiably so, such strong brand value, which means that you've got to have a really outstanding car."

While the Malibu may be improved, so is its competition. This month, Honda began selling a redesigned Accord sedan that is bigger, more powerful and more luxurious than previous versions. The Camry and Nissan Altima were also overhauled last year.

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To: theDentist
Would somebody please grab GM's designers and slap them out of their collective stupor?

With styling this bland and boring, if this is the best they can do, then the company is doomed.
21 posted on 09/28/2007 6:30:07 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: vietvet67
Problem for GM is that the Chevrolet Malibu won't even come close to the production levels of the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, where most of the Accord and Camry production comes from USA assembly plants.

I've driven the 2008 Accord EX sedan (powered by the new 190 bhp I-4 engine) and it is quiet, powerful and very refined.

22 posted on 09/28/2007 6:30:47 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: theDentist
That is simply a boring, non-descript car.

It looks like it was created by a committee of designers afraid to make any bold moves.

23 posted on 09/28/2007 6:31:04 AM PDT by CWW (Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
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To: theDentist
As exciting as watching tar cool.

The vast majority of car buyers prefer dull cars.

24 posted on 09/28/2007 6:32:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Visualize the Clintons in jail.)
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To: Neidermeyer
GM’s ecotec isn’t good enough and they don’t have a lightweight modern 2.5l or 3.0l v6.. no matter what they do this car will be saddled with too much weight , a low revving engine that burns more fuel than the foreign equivalents and their interiors will STILL be cheap plastic held together with superglue and will fall apart after just a few years in the heat... they will continue to lose market share...

You know, I'm sure everything you've said is true, but the real reason the Malibu can't catch the Accord or Camry is that the majority of the folks GM is targeting (Camry and Accord owners) wouldn't be caught dead in a Malibu - it would just be too embarassing to go into the office and tell folks you're buying a Malibu.

If GM really wants to sell this car they need to change the name.

25 posted on 09/28/2007 6:32:43 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: vietvet67
I found this part to be interesting:

"GM has not allowed critics who have driven the Malibu to publish their thoughts yet, but the car received mostly positive coverage at the Detroit auto show this year."

That doesn't bode well - if the reviews were glowing, you'd think they'd let them leak...

More pictures of the car in question:

Not a bad try, but not as good as the Camry's design.

26 posted on 09/28/2007 6:33:07 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: vietvet67

If GM really wants to compete, they need an edge and offer a 5 year/60,000 bumper to bumper warranty like Hyundai and Kia does. Otherwise, they’re no match for Honda or Toyota or the Koreans.


27 posted on 09/28/2007 6:33:10 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: vietvet67

GM better get their service departments at their dealers up to snuff if they are going to make a dent. My local dealer crows on and on about their service department. I could list a page worth of problems concerning my vehicle and my wife’s in reference to service. It’s a joke.


28 posted on 09/28/2007 6:34:29 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Slapshot68

LOL.


29 posted on 09/28/2007 6:34:47 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: stratboy
The only difference seems to be Unions and Management.

I think most of the problems with the union workers putting pop cans in the doors and just leaving parts out are in the past. The typical line worker doesn't care whether he's bolting in a part that will last 3 years or 20 years, so I blame the quality problems on management.

Call me in 2017 and tell me how the 2007 Malibu has held up. Then I'll look at the 2017 model.

30 posted on 09/28/2007 6:35:53 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (May the heirs of Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski rise up again to defend Europe.)
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To: Spktyr

Simply put, the car is uninspiring.


31 posted on 09/28/2007 6:35:56 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
“With styling this bland and boring, if this is the best they can do, then the company is doomed.”

Yet, on this very thread the ultra boring Accord is lauded. Hundreds of thousands that car and the downright homely Camry are bought by eager Americans every year. The fact is people LIKE land and boring, and it’s been ever thus since the days of the Chrysler Airflow.

32 posted on 09/28/2007 6:36:13 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 1rudeboy
What the heck is a 3.5L V-6? Is that a new engine for GM? Just curious (I know little about cars).

From what I've read about the Saturn Aura, the 3.5 is an older engine design paired, in the Aura XE, with an older four-speed tranny. The Aura XR comes with a newer design 3.6 engine and the new six-speed tranny.

If that is at all wrong then I'll surely be corrected.

33 posted on 09/28/2007 6:37:43 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Fresh Wind

The vast majority of car buyers prefer fuel efficient, reliable, and functional cars. Relatively conservative styling is simply coincidental to that.


34 posted on 09/28/2007 6:39:20 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: Slapshot68
GM already offers a 5yr, 100,000 mile warranty.
35 posted on 09/28/2007 6:39:47 AM PDT by CobraJet
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To: stratboy

Bingo!


36 posted on 09/28/2007 6:41:14 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: vietvet67
"Fat Chance"

The new Malibu is a great car. It will do better than you think. The venom some here have for the big three is unbelievable, and sad...

Mike

37 posted on 09/28/2007 6:41:30 AM PDT by MichaelP (The Big Picture IS important!)
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To: vietvet67
But, unlike Japanese carmakers, GM executives want to sell more than a single family car

But, unlike Japanese carmakers, GM executives want to make less make less money by selling less cars.

38 posted on 09/28/2007 6:41:54 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: vietvet67

Takes aim at Toyota, hits own foot.


39 posted on 09/28/2007 6:42:32 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Spktyr
“Not a bad try, but not as good as the Camry’s design.”

With all due respect, the Camry is one of the ugliest cars out there and has always been designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I have to conclude that so many people are so biased against the American manufacturers that NOTHING they do would ever be enough.

40 posted on 09/28/2007 6:42:42 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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