Posted on 09/18/2007 9:39:52 AM PDT by Philistone
I'm sorry that your child was killed by a drunk driver, but that doesn't give you the right to pull my car over at random and search me or it.
I'm sorry that your father died of lung cancer at the age of 60, but that doesn't give you the right to tell me I can't smoke in my own house or car.
I'm sorry that your best friend died of a heart-attack after eating nothing but Big Macs all his life, but that doesn't give you the right to tell me that I can't eat fats if I want to.
I'm sorry that you were raised to be squeamish at the sight of blood, but that does not give you the right to force me to eat only vegetables or wear only plant fibers.
I'm sorry that you can't afford health insurance, but that does not give you the right to force me to provide it for you.
I'm sorry that over 150 years ago people with the same color skin as me enslaved people with the same color skin as you, but that doesn't give you the right take the hard-earned efforts of my labor for yourself.
I'm sorry that your homeland is corrupt and your culture has no work ethic, but that doesn't give you the right to come here illegally and burden our schools and emergency rooms with your presence.
I'm sorry that your parents chose to come here illegally, but that doesn't give you the right to force me to fund your college education.
I'm sorry that you find it fashionable to ride your bike to work, but that doesn't give you the right to take away my car.
I'm sorry that your lack of intelligence and attention through high school and college left you fit only for a job as a public school teacher, but that doesn't give you the right to inflict your anger and ideology on my child.
I'm sorry that you are mentally and physically unfit to serve in our nation's Armed Forces, but that does not give you the right to disparage those who are fit and do serve.
I'm sorry that your parents and teachers continually told you that you are unique and special, but you are not.
I'm sorry that the jocks stuffed you in your locker in high school, but that doesn't give you the right to equate my President with Hitler.
I'm sorry that you failed Trigonometry, but that doesn't give you the right to equate Sociology with Engineering
I'm sorry that you are not as attractive as other women, but that does not give you the right to impose your feminist idiocracy on me, my company or my family.
I'm sorry that your nervous system is so exquisitely sensitive that you can be hurt by minute variations in air pressure caused by sound waves, but that doesn't give you the right to determine what I can and can not say.
I'm sorry that your enormous ego coupled with a complete lack of self-esteem, lack of any sense of self-worth and ignorance about how the real world works has led you to becoming a Liberal, but... Well, no buts. I'm not really sorry.
Remember: Anyone who tells you "it's for the children" believes that YOU are a child.
The other one is “if it saves just one life...”.
If Hillary wins, we will have the government telling us what we can eat, how many miles a day we have to jog, how often we have to have check-ups (The Silky Pony said last week that if gov’t was paying for health care then it had a right to tell people how they should remain healthy), etc, etc.
My own attitude is that you could live twice as long if you gave up everything that would make you want to.
Oh, thank you. I’m so sick of the “privilege” nonsense.
I always have to ask, “Did people in the 1800s have to have licenses to drive or ride a horse?” Apparently, it wasn’t just a “privilege”.
I’ll also add similar to 1st:
I’m sorry that your child was killed on the highway, but that doesn’t give you the right to pull my car over because you don’t see a seat belt over my chest.
The Fresno Police Department routinely conducts sobriety checkpoints. Sometimes they have great success and arrest about five people for DUI. But regardless of the numbers, they always seize a lot of vehicles from unlicensed drivers. That is not a bad thing per se, as they get a LOT of revenue from impound fees. It’s not about safety really, it’s about the money.
Sorry, Badeye, you are mistaken.
The SCOTUS has ruled that random stops are unreasonable. (DELAWARE v. PROUSE, 440 U.S. 648 (1979) They allow for formal road blocks where all drivers are checked but not for officers randomly stopping automobiles without probable cause in order to search and/or question the driver.
Random searches are UNREASONABLE, regardless of circumstance.
I suppose you support the ludicrous random searches at the airports, too, when we all know the most likely terror perpetrators are young arab-type males.
I was referring more to the keyboard commandoes who think that the Armed Forces just take anyone who walks through the door.
I’ve actually known three guys who decided “Heck, I can’t find a job so I’ll join the Army.” All three were back after washing out of boot camp.
‘Drunk driving deaths are too many at any level. But so are murders. Each should be subject to law enforcement action and judicial sanctions without subjecting everyone else to unreasonable detentions and searches.’
I think drunk drivers that kill innocent people are in fact ‘murderers’ especially when its not the first time they’ve been busted driving drunk.
To some, this is a debate about legal theory. To some, like myself, its an absurd notion that can’t hold up in any court in the United States, for the obvious reason.
My friend was 22 years old, recently married, with a six month old little girl. His wife had just got up off the couch, my friend was also about to go to bed, but he wanted to see the baseball scores - it was a Friday evening at 11:26PM. So his wife picked their little daugher up off the couch, walked to the bedroom door...and watched a Trans Am driven by a 19 year old with a previous conviction for DUI come through the window and kill him. Ten seconds sooner, it would have been a triple burial (narrow basement apartment on Ridge Avenue in Cincinnati).
You won’t convince me this isn’t a ‘reasonable search’, nor will you convince me the courts have made a mistake on this one.
Sorry. I understand what you are saying...I just can’t agree with you. I’ve seen the wreckage after this kind of theory is applied in the real world too many times, way to personally.
Phil, that’s a fine rant but Badeye is correct about the driving. Like owning a home, owning a car and driving it within the limits of the law is a privilege.
You are correct about that. No need to imply they’re dumb or ignorant (although I’d argue that with the “elementary” types who have nothing but “Education” education).
Many teachers are very bright, and many don’t even subscribe to their masters in the forced unions.
I may have laid that one on a bit thick, but I am sick of teachers who can’t even pass the tests that they give their students yet think that their opinions on world affairs are Gospel.
Murderers also kill a lot of innocent people. But I too have had a friend killed by a drunk driver and I am truly sympathetic with you for the loss of your friend, but I don’t want that being used as an excuse to stop me without just or probable cause. I resent it and I wish the courts would stop it.
The courts have said otherwise, repeatedly.
The courts are wrong. But this is not a surprise; the government already engages in a great deal of unconstitutional activity already.
I understand your opinion. I wouldn’t offer that up to a cop that pulls you over, however....(chuckle)
Yes. “For the children” includes keeping them away from their mommies when they’re sick by strapping them in the back seat of a car, so mommy can’t help them while their tummies are pushed in when they want to vomit enough already; and not letting them feel the freedom and ecstasy of an unencumbered bike ride. Amongst other myriad things. Glad I grew up in the last gasp of freedom for kids.
I think its about both money and limiting the number of idiot drunk drivers on the highways.
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