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Homebuilders' confidence at 16-year low
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/15/news/economy/builders/index.htm?postversion=2007081513 ^ | 8-15-07 | Chris Isidore

Posted on 08/15/2007 10:45:02 AM PDT by Hydroshock

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Builders' confidence in the new home market fell to a 16-year low, according to a trade group survey conducted this month which reports buyers' problems finding financing spreading beyond the subprime sector.

The National Association of Home Builders/Wells Fargo Housing Market Index fell two more points to a reading of 22, the lowest level since January 1991, when the nation was struggling with a recession, an energy price shock and the start of the first Gulf War. Any reading below 50 indicates more builders view sales conditions as poor than as good.

The index's various components -- view of current conditions, expectations for conditions six months from now and current level of traffic -- all reached 16-year lows in the recent survey. Each region of the country reported overall confidence readings that were down or unchanged from historically low levels as well.

David Seiders, the group's chief economist, said he doesn't expect to see any pickup in purchases of new homes and new home building until next year at the earliest

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1 posted on 08/15/2007 10:45:03 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

—booms always bust—


2 posted on 08/15/2007 10:47:38 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Hydroshock

Lemme guess. This is why Wells Fargo is giving mortgages to illegals.


3 posted on 08/15/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Hydroshock

In the mean time my builder can’t get anybody on my property to build my house.


4 posted on 08/15/2007 10:51:19 AM PDT by Hazwaste (Now with added lemony freshness!)
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To: Hydroshock

Oh boo hoo. People with good credit and money for a down payment will do just fine.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/10/real_estate/mortgage_rates/index.htm?postversion=2007081115

from the article:

The one catch is this: You’ve got to be a buyer with good credit, a low debt to income ratio, a healthy down payment, verifiable income, and looking to finance less than $417,000 (the cutoff for so-called jumbo loans).

Those characteristics basically define someone who qualifies for a loan through a government program like Fannie Mae, which makes up about 50 percent of all outstanding mortgages, according to Guy Cecala, publisher of the industry newsletter Inside Mortgage Finance.
Mortgage meltdown contagion

Graiver said to expect to pay a down payment of at least 10 percent, and have a FICO credit score of 620 or higher in order to get a rate between 6.2 and 7.5 percent. Perhaps 90 percent of home buyers qualify for that prime rate, although if you want a rate below 7 percent you probably need a FICO score above 660.

To get the best deal, “plan on coming to my office with your tax returns and a down payment,” said Bob Mouton, President of the Long Island-based American Mortgage Group.


5 posted on 08/15/2007 10:51:49 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Hydroshock
Capitalism does not carry with it protections for those that make foolish business decisions... nor should it! People should be forced to deal with their own mistakes... not suckle on the teat of the gubmit!

LLS

6 posted on 08/15/2007 11:03:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Hydroshock
Scarf up on those bargains and rent those babies out to the former "subprime" applicants.

Dr. Bernanke is going to lower those interest rates, then the bust will become a boom with all that sweet appreciation :'))))))!!!

7 posted on 08/15/2007 11:09:39 AM PDT by BlabItGrabIt (Get Away from the Blind Side of Life--S.R. Vaughn)
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To: rellimpank

This might not be an ordinary boom...

8 posted on 08/15/2007 11:11:57 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: Hydroshock

More good news:

“National Association of Realtors...noted that existing home prices were up in 97 of the 149 metropolitan areas surveyed compared with the sales prices of a year ago...”

UP!! Doesn’t that mean that the so-called “housing bust” is OVER?

But leave it to the “Eeyores” in the MSM to “headline” their report on the market: “Existing Home Sales Fall in 41 States”. [See thread below...]


9 posted on 08/15/2007 11:18:44 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: cinives

On the other hand, if you need a jumbo note, you might very well be out of luck.

Thornburg Mortgage discovered on Monday evening that they couldn’t roll over their portfolio, because no one wants to buy paper with the word “mortgage” in it, even when it is very high quality paper.


10 posted on 08/15/2007 11:29:51 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

My money is that by the end of the year it will be next to imposible to move anything but the best A paper.


11 posted on 08/15/2007 11:34:00 AM PDT by Hydroshock ("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
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To: NVDave

I think the biggest problem is the need to sell all these mortgages within a few months of the closing so they can make more loans. Whatever happened to banks making money off the interest they were collecting from the mortgage ?

If I were a bank and a guy making 2 mil a year came in and asked for a 1 mil mortgage on a 2.8 mil home at 7.5% interest, I think I would give it to him.

What’s wrong with this picture ?


12 posted on 08/15/2007 11:39:47 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Hydroshock

Every builder I know of is living in a million dollar house...and a lot of their workers are, too. GOOD tradespeople make good bucks.


13 posted on 08/15/2007 11:42:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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