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Girl, 13, killed family over grounding (Canadian girl with 24 year old boyfriend)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ ^ | July 12, 2007

Posted on 07/12/2007 10:18:39 AM PDT by lowbridge

A jury has found a 13-year-old Canadian girl guilty of murdering her parents and her younger brother in revenge for being grounded and having her computer privileges revoked.

A jury in Medicine Hat, Alberta, found the teenager guilty on three counts of first-degree murder after only three hours of deliberation.

The bodies of her father, 42, mother, 48, and brother, 8, were found in the family home in April 2006. They had been stabbed 41 times.

During the trial, the girl told the jury that her boyfriend, Jeremy Steinke, who was 11 years her senior and had claimed to friends he was a werewolf, killed her parents and then ordered her to stab her brother.

Testimony included details of how her brother begged for his life before his throat was slashed. The girl testified her brother said, "I'm scared. I'm too young to die."

She said Steinke broke in before dawn, attacked her parents and ordered her to stab the boy. His body was found in his bedroom among blood-soaked toys. Her parents' bodies were in the basement.

Prosecutors argued that the girl helped plot the crime before fleeing with Steinke to a neighbouring province. Steinke's murder trial date has yet to be set.

The girl, who cannot be named under Canadian law, was 12 at the time of the murders in April, 2006. She is the youngest person to be convicted of murder in the country's history, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported.

She faces up to six years in detention and four months of probation, and is due to be sentenced on August 23.

Defense lawyer Tim Foster had tried to show that the girl talked to friends about wanting her parents dead for forbidding her any contact with Steinke but never believed the killings would be carried out.

On the stand last week, the girl said such talk was just idle "venting."

"She always felt responsible. The question was whether legally she was responsible," Mr Foster said.

After the killing, Steinke left the girl at the scene. She met up with him hours later and had sex with him, she said.

The girl and Steinke, who is now 24, were found the next day sleeping in a truck parked in a small town in Saskatchewan.


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To: JamesP81

“A short drop and a sudden stop solves problems in many cases.”

At the very least they prevent additional ones by the same biological life form.


41 posted on 07/12/2007 11:20:17 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
At the very least they prevent additional ones by the same biological life form.

What you should keep in mind in respect to my comment is that I generally don't favor the death penalty. But sometimes you have a case so severe that I can't see any other outcome as justice...
42 posted on 07/12/2007 11:27:18 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: JamesP81

That’s where you and I differ. I believe it should be liberally applied.

Murders (intentional ones)
Rape
Child Molestation
Infanticide
Lying politicians and Lawyers. (no I’m not joking)


43 posted on 07/12/2007 11:30:31 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Famously frisky)
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To: marsapan

She was 12 when she killed her parents


44 posted on 07/12/2007 11:35:57 AM PDT by It's me
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To: Leatherneck_MT
The scariest part is liberals would blame the parents for infringing on her rights etc.. etc.. and that she was a lowly victim in the whole mess...

Insanity....

45 posted on 07/12/2007 11:39:25 AM PDT by erikm88
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To: Norman Bates
Only 6 years. Dear God!

Remember this is Canada. Good thing she didn't spank her family, then she would have REALLY been in trouble.

46 posted on 07/12/2007 11:52:03 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: lowbridge
Age shouldn’t be considered in this kind of crime. If a six year old hacks up a family I say off the six year old. They’re obviously too sick to get along with the rest of us.
47 posted on 07/12/2007 12:15:02 PM PDT by Jaysun (Certified thread hijacker since 7-7-07 (by restornu and blu))
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To: reagan_fanatic

sure. “the devil made me do it”


48 posted on 07/12/2007 12:58:53 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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To: absolootezer0

It depends upon what you believe in, I guess. I happen to believe that satanic evil exists and is a strong influence upon the weak minded.


49 posted on 07/12/2007 1:05:54 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Press 1 for English, press 2 for deport)
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To: reagan_fanatic

well, i’ll agree with you if you’ll call it demonic. i don’t believe there are that many in the world the rate direct satanic influence. also, satan is not omnipresent.
whatever problems this child had, altho we agree where the temptation came from, the fault more likely lays at her parents feet for not raising her with the strength, knowledge and faith to combat it.

however, what i was referring to, were the “likes” that you wrote off as devilish. i won’t argue with you on tarot cards or wicca, as we have different opinions and neither of us will sway on them. however, the rest are not inheirantly evil. altho the argument may be given that the combination of all of them may show tendencies.


50 posted on 07/12/2007 1:37:41 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (Stop repeat offenders. Don't re-elect them!)
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To: absolootezer0
Demonic is probably a more accurate word for it. And it's far easier to fall under demonic influences when your family is dysfunctional and the child thinks he or she is unwanted or unloved. You see this kind of stuff all the time - there are broken homes and shelters filled with kids who were basically thrown away by their Parents because they couldn't or wouldn't deal with them.

The evil that runs rampant in this world would have a far smaller playground to use if we would just cherish our families a little more and worry about our own selfish interests a little less.
51 posted on 07/12/2007 1:57:00 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Press 1 for English, press 2 for deport)
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To: lowbridge
It took them 3 HOURS to determine guilt?!
52 posted on 07/13/2007 8:34:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: lowbridge

She’s either going to kill someone while in custody, or get out and do it again as an adult. Too bad someone else has to die at the hands of someone like her before something more permanent can be done.


53 posted on 07/13/2007 8:39:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: lowbridge

Why is this in chat, sure looks like real news to me.


54 posted on 07/13/2007 9:00:16 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: Leatherneck_MT
“A thirteen year old who plotted and completed the murder of her family deserves life in prison. She is NOT innocent.” I disagree, she should be dropped through a trap door with a rope around her neck.

I agree. She also should die.

We do it to dumb animals, who don't know better and act according to their basic nature.

My argument for executng children criminals, and the retarded is very simple: not executing her is an insult to the hundreds of thousands of children, and goths, and the retarded who never murder anyone. So it's reasonable to assume that even those impacted groups know the difference between right and wrong.

Take a life deliberately? Pay the penalty. No exceptions, no repeat offender.

55 posted on 07/13/2007 9:25:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: metmom
It took them 3 HOURS to determine guilt?!

Well, if you've ever been on a jury for murder or other serious crime, you'd realize that that is a blink of an eye...
Hard for deliberations to be any shorter, if the jury does its job properly.

56 posted on 07/13/2007 9:29:37 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Clam Digger
I didnt post it in chat. The moderators moved it here.


57 posted on 07/13/2007 11:18:24 AM PDT by lowbridge (If You’re Gonna Burn Our Flag, Wrap Yourself in It First /No Oil for Pacifists)
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To: bushIsGr8

No, he is saying that the mentally retarded should be allowed to execute criminals. :-)


59 posted on 07/13/2007 11:48:09 AM PDT by lowbridge (If You’re Gonna Burn Our Flag, Wrap Yourself in It First /No Oil for Pacifists)
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