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How Can Steve Jobs Be a Liberal?
Rush Limbaugh ^ | July 2nd | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/03/2007 7:08:20 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

CALLER: Hey, I'm a huge fan of Apple and Steve Jobs, and I'm just so fascinated by this new phone. I went and tried one out, and they're fantastic. But I think what baffles me the most is to see how he aligns himself more often than not with his good buddy Algore. I just don't get that. I mean, for one, he's really a representative, the perfect example of what entrepreneurship in America and greatness is all about.

RUSH: You know, it's one of the mysteries of life. It's like Warren Buffett. How can Warren Buffett be sidling up to Hillary Clinton, one of the premiere capitalists of all time?

(Excerpt) Read more at rushlimbaugh.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: algore; apple; bestofiggle; gebait; jobs; liberal; liberalism; mac; stevejobs; worstofiggle
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CALLER: As I was sitting here waiting on the phone, I got all wound up thinking about it, and I was like, "How great would it be to have a Rush and Steve Jobs interview on an Open Line Friday?" and that even spurred my interest further to have a Rush entrepreneurial series with some of the greatest achievers in our country, i.e., Tiger Woods, Roger Goodell, Steve Jobs. I think that would be a fantastic idea, Rush, what do you think?

RUSH: Well, I think that would be a good idea because back in the nineties when the white-collar downsizing movement was taking place, all these middle-age white-collar guys were losing their jobs -- women, too -- and it was unique because normally when there were layoffs they usually happen with the blue-collar types, and there were mixed emotions but there were people out there really happy, you know, a whole class thing. "Well, I'm glad these white-collar guys are finally finding out what it's like to be fired! They deserve to be fired!" So three or four months into this, we did three or four days, maybe a whole week, taking calls from people who had lost their jobs, white-collar executives, and what they were doing, because their age made them not very competitive in the job market. Younger people would work for lower wages because they're inexperienced. So these guys that called told some of the most amazing stories about the businesses they started and how much happier they were being in charge of this, and how much hard work it was, but how fulfilling it was finally take the plunge and go do what they want to do. So it's not a bad idea to go do that again periodically. I appreciate the suggestion. As for Steve Jobs, I don't know that he would accept the invitation to do an interview. Apple is a very political company, and they're very liberal minded. Gore is on their board, of course, obviously.

1 posted on 07/03/2007 7:08:23 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Golden Eagle

You still contribute to leftist causes, right?

How much $$$ you up to now? Think I could get you to answer that question outright?


2 posted on 07/03/2007 7:11:12 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

None I don’t directly support any leftist causes, I speak our against them such as your mission to provide free technology to communist governments. They love you for it too, Cuba, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc all get the benefit of your complete commitment to green party whacko Richard Stallman and his “free software manifesto”.


3 posted on 07/03/2007 7:33:37 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Some people aren’t happy to leave individuals well enough alone. It doesn’t matter that they’ve made billions. They were “liberal” before they made their money, and they continue to be and exert their “liberal” beliefs upon others after they’ve made their billions.

Sound economic practices and God-given talents don’t make “liberalism”. Sin makes the mind “liberal” in doing and defending what is wrong while opposing and even persecuting what is right.

We’ve come to understand “liberalism” by the sin(s) liberals defend. It’s sin that these are enslaved to that will destory their wealth and rob them of their God-given talent.

For example: homosexuality and abortion (lust and murder) will not be undone for lack of money initially. Lust and Murder will reduce the liberal defenders by the poisonous fruits of their ventures disease and collagen obsessions (pursuit of eternal youth). What becomes important to those enslaved to their sinful desires will be what they burn their wealth and lives upon.

But sin is one who doesn’t lack intelligence. This cunning serpant recruits and then enslaves with misery what he can’t persuade. It takes a stronger thief to tied down the prince of this world whilst the Divine robs sin of lost souls.


4 posted on 07/03/2007 7:34:32 AM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
IMHO, there are a lot of liberals who live conservative principles but don’t believe they are conservatives because of the false stereotypes associated with the Right and the Left.

For example, Jobs may have a passion for taking care of the environment. He has been told over and over that the left takes care of the environment while the right doesn’t care. Of course, we know the reality is the left’s approach is just to demand ‘someone else’ (ie the government) do it versus the right who takes personal responsibility in their day to day lives.

Maybe, coming from the late Hippie era, Jobs hates war, that’s understandable. But, he may have the false notion that the left ‘hates’ war and the right ‘loves’ war.. again, another false stereotype. The right doesn’t love war, but we understand the alternative is often far worse. It is like chemotherapy. The process is awful, but the alternative is far worse.

I could go on and on about the false stereotypes that people buy into, be it from guilt or savvy marketing...

5 posted on 07/03/2007 7:36:16 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: mnehrling

Food for thought, there.


6 posted on 07/03/2007 7:52:43 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: mnehrling; SaltyJoe

Don’t fall for this guy’s tripe, he’s a big supporter of green party moonbat Richard Stallman who believes in giving free technology to communists which fuels their rants against US billionaires.


7 posted on 07/03/2007 7:55:14 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: SaltyJoe

As Ayn Rand has said, “Money doesn’t corrupt a man - a man corrupts his money.”


8 posted on 07/03/2007 7:57:44 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Logic and the run-of-the-mill liberal don’t mix.


9 posted on 07/03/2007 7:58:28 AM PDT by FourPeas (The right thing to do never requires any subterfuge, it is always simple and direct. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: mnehrling

very informative posts! many conservatives are afraid to call themselves environmentalist because other conservatives associate that with the green party (this is very easy to do as thats how the MSM users the term. The Bible calls on us to be good stewards to the earth and their is nothing unchristian or leftist about doing just that so long as its done with balance.


10 posted on 07/03/2007 8:34:24 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
It's easy for poor people to be liberal, because they don't pay taxes and are a net consumer of government services. They can essentially vote that money be taken from other people and given to them.

But it's also easy for the very rich to be liberal, because almost any level of government taxation and interference would have no effect on them. Steve Jobs already has billions and billions of dollars. Even if his effective tax rate were 90%, he could still afford to do literally anything he ever wanted to for the rest of his life. He can feel all warm and fuzzy because he believes he's "helping", and he will never personally feel any effect of his liberalism. It's the same reason why so many Hollywood types are liberal - if their $40 million movie contract is only worth $20 million after taxes, it might mean a smaller Christmas bonus for the crew of their private jet. They can still live any lifestyle they choose and never feel any financial effects of their onerous tax rates.

It's the ones in the middle, especially entrepreneurs, who are punished most by liberal ideology. Having to write a check for 40% of $100,000 is a lot more painful than having to write a check for 60% of $100,000,000, even though the amount of the latter check is far more.

Steve Jobs may think he's "helping". But as a wealthy, successful entrepreneur who still supports liberalism, he's just saying "I already got mine, so screw you for trying to get yours."

11 posted on 07/03/2007 9:33:39 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: mnehrling

I have several friends who believe every line in the BAD AMERICAN rant posted frequently on FR but who still always vote for the liberal.

I really just don’t understand it so have to consider them vapid politically.


12 posted on 07/03/2007 11:14:50 AM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^^^^^None^^^^^^^^^^^^

How do you get your software then?

Do you pirate it? Are you “borrowing” it from a friend?

Place your cards face up on the table sir.


13 posted on 07/03/2007 3:13:56 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: mnehrling

^^^^^^^^^^^IMHO, there are a lot of liberals who live conservative principles but don’t believe they are conservatives because of the false stereotypes associated with the Right and the Left.^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree. I’ve observed the same thing. I’ve noticed that most of these false notions come from the liberal media. It wasn’t until about a decade that their monopoly was broken, and it isn’t until recently that their broken monopoly has amounted into something significant and nationwide.

^^^^^^^^^^I could go on and on about the false stereotypes that people buy into, be it from guilt or savvy marketing...^^^^^^^^^^^

I thing guilt is a measurable quotent here, but I think this will probably speak best for what I mean about false notions being upheld by the media.

http://newsbusters.org/node/13871

This would fall under the savvy marketing umbrella.


14 posted on 07/03/2007 3:29:21 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Your silence has been noted. When directly asked about your monitary contributions to left wing causes, you cannot reply.

How many windows OS purchases have you made? MS Office? Other MS wares? How many Macs have you purchased? Other Apple wares?


15 posted on 07/07/2007 5:45:28 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I don’t directly support any left wing causes, unlike you. Your attempts to equate my buying of products from US companies to your giving of free technology to communists and other dangerous regimes is ridiculous. You should go back to your Phoronix board and whine about evil US companies over there where it’s fully accepted.


16 posted on 07/07/2007 10:02:33 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

^^^^^^^^^I don’t directly support any left wing causes^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes you do. There are several freepers around here who are well aware of the left wing tilt/agendas of these companies.

It’s only you who are in the dark drinking the koolaid on this.

^^^^^^^^Your attempts to equate my buying of products from US companies^^^^^^^^^

Let’s get this straight.

Your attempts to equate my buying of products from *LEFT WING* US companies...............

Yes, they are equal. You monitarily support these scumbags by buying their huge-profit-margined products wheras I....... ehhh...... not so much.

^^^^^^^^^^your giving of free technology to communists and other dangerous regimes is ridiculous.^^^^^^^^^^^

As I recall ol’ billy is giving his crap away to communists as well.

So again, let’s see if you have it within you to be honest. Do you have that? Honesty? Do you grasp this word?

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Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? - Chris Tucker

How much money are we talking about here? Or do you pirate your software? let’s get the truth out into the open.

You seem to demand that out of everybody else. Now it’s your turn.


17 posted on 07/07/2007 6:54:44 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
olÂ’ billy is giving his crap away to communists

It's funny watching those like yourself who actually do support literal "giving" of technology, completely for free, to communists act like you're somehow upset that someone else is selling it to them instead. As if thay somehow actually made any sense ROFL.

18 posted on 07/08/2007 7:54:25 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

I’m not upset by it. What upsets me is your dishonesty. Everybody has heard about 3 dollars windows for the third world.

And you’re still avoiding your own contributions to leftist causes.

How much have you contributed? Let’s get a dollar amount.


19 posted on 07/09/2007 6:10:54 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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To: Golden Eagle

One thing I know I’m not wrong on is your monitary support for these known liberal companies.

That’s why you won’t answer the question. Most freepers know these guys are liberals, it’s only you who have the rug pulled over your eyes.


20 posted on 07/14/2007 6:37:01 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (If you use a mac, windows, linux, solaris, or bsd there's a communist in your box.)
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