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A middle-aged conservative who is a little tired of some of the political fratricide seen here. | Today | StarfireIV

Posted on 06/30/2007 2:36:21 AM PDT by StarfireIV

10. "I knew a Mormon who was a transvestite, child molester, drug dealer, drug addict, closet devil worshipper etc. etc. etc. so this proves that all of them are either one or all of the above"
9. "If Mormons only accepted God as I see him, I'd be ok with them."
8. "Joseph Smith was a. 1. Drug addict, 2. Cult leader, 3. Very bad person, etc. etc. etc."
7. The original message found in the Gospel can be twisted, repackaged, edited, reinterpreted a thousand times and the guilty party can still call themselves "Christian" but if a member of another religion which includes Jesus as a prophet, has a majority of its members not just reading the gospel, but PRACTICING it, and has a membership which is overwhelmingly conservative, said so-called Christian can still damn them at will.
6. "I don't care if the US armed forces, war efforts past and present, and therefore the US population has benefited from the genius of an arms designer who was the product of a Mormon, polygamous relationship, i.e. John Moses Browning, Americans should never, be in possession of a material object, idea, or political belief which had anything to do with one of "those people""
5. "You Mormons should lighten up." (All I'm doing is tearing apart your faith and values system because I have this compelling need to pick a religious fight and prove that Radical Islam is not the only religion which has militant factions)
4. "The Mormon Religion has no secrets and no member has ever unfairly benefited from a transaction with another member."
3. "No divine revelation within the LDS church has ever coincided with an unresolved conflict between church doctrine and US law."
2. "I won't support this or that candidate, politician, public figure because he's a Mormon, but don't you DARE call me a bigot."
1. "Mormonism is a Cult."


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To: StarfireIV

Not a single mention of the wearing of magical underpants????


21 posted on 06/30/2007 3:40:33 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: WhiteGuy
Not a single mention of the wearing of magical underpants????

Why are they wearing magical underpants

22 posted on 06/30/2007 4:12:17 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Darkwolf377

“I think I’ve seen more “Mormons are being victimized” threads than I’ve seen individual comments bashing Mormons, just fyi.”

I would say that I have to agree 100%.


23 posted on 06/30/2007 4:15:28 AM PDT by indcons (Please call and thank Sens. Sessions, DeMint, and Vitter. They deserve our praise and gratitude.)
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To: Mark was here

To be fair, this is not a Mormon (LDS Church) practice.

These are “fundamentalist Mormons,” and bear roughly the same relationship to the LDS Church as David Koresh did to evangelical Protestants.

They are very bad people.


24 posted on 06/30/2007 4:17:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: StarfireIV

I won’t support this or that candidate, politician, public figure because he’s a Mormon, and yes, Mormonism is a Cult.


25 posted on 06/30/2007 6:36:32 AM PDT by proudpapa (Thompson and/or Hunter.)
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To: donna
I'm not even a Mormon

Why not?


Well because my wife already nixed me getting into that whole polygamy thing and beyond that I really don't see any personal benefit to it.
26 posted on 06/30/2007 7:21:50 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: StarfireIV
When Christians hear Mormons refer to the Garden of Eden they may incorrectly assume that the LDS believe it was by the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. Joseph Smith, however, claimed by revelation that the Garden of Eden was in western Missouri...
27 posted on 06/30/2007 7:27:59 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: festus
>Well because my wife already nixed me getting into that whole polygamy thing...

Polygamy sounds
like it's a lot of fun, but
when I take my wives

out to McDonald's
you wouldn't believe the BILL!
And who do you think

gets stuck tossing out
the empty cups and wrappers?!
Polygamy? Blech!!!


28 posted on 06/30/2007 7:34:00 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: StarfireIV

Mormon ideology aside, I think the physical similarity is amazing.

Ol' Brigham prolly couldn't complete a pass for sh*t, tho.

29 posted on 06/30/2007 7:35:09 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: theFIRMbss

Ell Oh Ell I say
Multiple wives are only
one great big headache


30 posted on 06/30/2007 7:42:53 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: StarfireIV
If you are going to quote FReepers, shouldn't you have footnotes? It could be construed that you you simply voiced these, or made them up, yourself.
31 posted on 06/30/2007 11:50:17 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I buy gas for my SUV with the Carbon Offsets I sell on Ebay!)
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To: Mark was here
Why are they wearing magical underpants

That, indeed is the question!

32 posted on 06/30/2007 2:17:30 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: StarfireIV

The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) is often misunderstood . . Some accuse the Church of not believing in Christ and, therefore, not being a Christian religion . . This post helps to clarify such misconceptions

· Baptism: .

Early Christian churches, practiced baptism of youth (not infants) by immersion by the father of the family. The local congregation had a lay ministry. An early Christian Church has been re-constructed at the Israel Museum, and the above can be verified. http://www.imj.org.il/eng/exhibitions/2000/christianity/ancientchurch/structure/index.html
The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) continues baptism and a lay ministry as taught by Jesus’ Apostles. . Early Christians were persecuted for keeping their practices sacred, and not allowing non-Christians to witness them

· The Trinity: .

A literal reading of the New Testament points to God and Jesus Christ , His Son , being separate , divine beings , united in purpose. . To whom was Jesus praying in Gethsemane, and Who was speaking to Him and his apostles on the Mount of Transfiguration?

The Nicene Creed”s definition of the Trinity was influenced by scribes translating the Greek manuscripts into Latin. . The scribes embellished on a passage explaining the Trinity , which is the Catholic and Protestant belief that God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. . The oldest versions of the epistle of 1 John, read: “There are three that bear witness: the Spirit, the water and the blood and these three are one.”

Scribes later added “the Father, the Word and the Spirit,” and it remained in the epistle when it was translated into English for the King James Version, according to Dr. Bart Ehrman, Chairman of the Religion Department at UNC- Chapel Hill. . . .He no longer believes in the Nicene Trinity. .

Scholars agree that Early Christians believed in an embodied God; it was neo-Platonist influences that later turned Him into a disembodied Spirit. . Divinization, narrowing the space between God and humans, was also part of Early Christian belief. . The Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) views the Trinity as three separate divine beings , in accord with the earliest Greek New Testament manuscripts.

· The Deity of Jesus Christ

Mormons hold firmly to the deity of Christ. For members of the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS), Jesus is not only the Son of God but also God the Son. Evangelical pollster George Barna found in 2001 that while only 33 percent of American Catholics, Lutherans, and Methodists (28 percent of Episcopalians) agreed that Jesus was “without sin”, 70 percent of Mormons believe Jesus was sinless. http://www.adherents.com/misc/BarnaPoll.html

· The Cross: .

The Cross became popular as a Christian symbol in the Fifth Century A.D. . Members of the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) believe the proper Christian symbol is Christ’s resurrection , not his crucifixion on the Cross. Many Mormon chapels feature paintings of the resurrected Christ or His Second Coming.

· Christ’s Atonement: .

But Mormons don”t term Catholics and Protestants “non-Christian”. . They believe Christ’s atonement in Gethsemane and on the Cross applies to all mankind. . The dictionary definition of a Christian is “of, pertaining to, believing in, or belonging to a religion based on the teachings of Jesus Christ”: . All of the above denominations are followers of Christ, and consider him divine, and the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament. They all worship the one and only true God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and address Him in prayer as prescribed in The Lord’s Prayer.

It”s important to understand the difference between Reformation and Restoration when we consider who might be authentic Christians. If members of the Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) embrace early Christian theology , they are likely more “Christian” than their detractors.

* * *

· Christ-Like Lives: . . .The 2005 National Study of Youth and Religion published by UNC-Chapel Hill found that Church of Jesus Christ (LDS) youth (ages 13 to 17) were more likely to exhibit these Christian characteristics than Evangelicals (the next most observant group):

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . LDS Evangelical

Attend Religious Services weekly . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71% . . . . 55%

Importance of Religious Faith in shaping daily life –

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . extremely important .. 52. . . . . . . 28

Believes in life after death . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76 . . . . . . 62

Believes in psychics or fortune-tellers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . 5

Has taught religious education classes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . 28

Has fasted or denied something as spiritual discipline . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68 . . . . . . 22

Sabbath Observance . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67 . . . . . . 40

Shared religious faith with someone not of their faith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 72 . . . . . . 56

Family talks about God, scriptures, prayer daily . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50 . . . . . . 19

Supportiveness of church for parent in trying to raise teen

(very supportive) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .65 . . . . . . 26

Church congregation has done an excellent job in helping

Teens better understand their own sexuality and sexual morality . . . . . 84 . . . . . . 35


33 posted on 07/01/2007 3:51:10 AM PDT by Bot (Bot@alum.MIT.edu)
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To: Bot

This doesn’t surprise me. I hope you understand the intentions behind posting this. Back during the 92 Republican presidential primary, Pat Buchanan was explaining one of his reasons for running. He said that the one thing he wanted to make sure of was that no one could say “The Republican party is the party of David Duke,”. Unfortunately, some here are trying to prove him wrong.


34 posted on 07/01/2007 9:44:53 AM PDT by StarfireIV ("We canot save ourselves if the picture of ourselves is in a troth." Bill Cosby)
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To: Bot

Bot,

You missed some other normal, regular old mormon
beliefs in your haste to make it sound normal.

1. God used to be a man!
2. There is also a Goddess He reproduces with
3. Jesus was a created being like any other and
not always existing
4. Men can become gods of their own planet
5. Polytheism, based on #4.

The rest of your post obscured the truth.

best,
ampu


35 posted on 07/05/2007 4:56:53 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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