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'Eclyse' , zebra and horse crossbreed filly from Italy
AP Photos on Yahoo ^ | 6/28/07 | AP

Posted on 06/28/2007 11:51:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

A photo provided by the Zoo Safari and Hollywoodpark Stukenbrock shows the zebra and horse crossbreed 'Eclyse' during its presentation to the public in Schloss Holte, Germany, on Wednesday, June 27, 2007. The father of 'Eclyse' is a horse from Italy, where the crossbreed filly was born in 2006, her mother is a zebra from the Safari park.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: animalrights; crevo; crossbreed; eclyse; filly; zebra; zorse
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To: marsapan

Are you unzipping your pants or something?


21 posted on 06/28/2007 12:23:04 PM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: NormsRevenge; HairOfTheDog

saddle club ping?

Is this real?


22 posted on 06/28/2007 12:40:46 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Maximus of Texas

How many more times are you gonna ask that guy if he’s unzipping his pants?

And thanks for ping. Interesting.


23 posted on 06/28/2007 12:41:37 PM PDT by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle; ecurbh; CindyDawg; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Duchess47; FrogInABlender; ...
I don't know if it's real or not... It seems plausible...

Ping!


24 posted on 06/28/2007 12:44:09 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JRios1968

I’ll wax.


25 posted on 06/28/2007 12:45:05 PM PDT by agent_delta (One of his eyes resembled that of a vulture -- a pale blue eye with a film over it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What the hell is that?


26 posted on 06/28/2007 12:47:33 PM PDT by RockinRight (FRedOn. Apply Directly To The White House!)
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To: Maximus of Texas

Why, you interested or something?


27 posted on 06/28/2007 1:08:37 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: RockinRight

it’s a zebrass.


28 posted on 06/28/2007 1:09:06 PM PDT by marsapan
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well, it's possible but I think the sire has to be a zebra, not the other way around.

Tuesday, 26 June, 2001, 13:09 GMT 14:09 UK Zebra hybrid is cute surprise

It was a bit of a shock to everyone

A Shetland pony on a UK farm has surprised its owners by giving birth to a half-zebra foal.

She was fairly fat when we received her and we thought that she was getting fatter

Karen Pete, owner The hybrid animal, now a week old, appears healthy and is bouncing around its paddock at the Eden Ostrich World, at Langwathby Hall Farm, near Penrith, Cumbria.

The owners of the pony, called Tilly, had no idea she was pregnant when they bought her from a wildlife park, where she had been kept in a field with a male zebra.

"She was fairly fat when we received her and we thought that she was getting fatter," Karen Pete said. "It really was a bit of a shock when we got up one morning and we saw the foal that was there. We realised then what had happened."

Genetic difference

A cross between a horse and a zebra is rare but by no means unheard of. Colchester Zoo in Essex has had three zeedonks - crosses between a Chapman's Zebra and a black ass - since 1983.

As yet, the hybrid has no name

The Cumbrian foal would probably be called a zorse, although some commentators have suggested it might better be termed a zetland.

Hybrids are an interesting curiosity. The mule is perhaps the most famous cross - a combination between a horse and a donkey - and an animal of economic importance because it is a hard worker.

Hybrids are not easy to create, however. The mating pair's different number of chromosomes - the "packets" of DNA in each cell - makes a pregnancy hard to achieve.

A horse has 64 chromosomes; the zebra has 44. The zorse that results from cross breeding will have a number of chromosomes that is somewhere in between.

Tourist attraction

The zorse can only result where the sire is the zebra.

I can see no reason why this animal should not go on and live a long life

Lesley Barwise-Munro, veterinary surgeon "The smaller number of chromosomes has to be on the male side," Lesley Barwise-Munro, a veterinary surgeon in Alnwick, Northumberland, and a spokeswoman for the British Equine Veterinary Association, told BBC News Online.

"If it had been the other way around there would have been no pregnancy. It's how nature works."

And hybrids are invariably sterile, she added.

Visitors will be able to see the foal when the centre reopens its gift shop and tea room on Monday. The attraction has been closed since March because of the foot-and-mouth crisis.

Good future

At first, Karen and her husband Jim were reluctant to publicise the new arrival because they were unsure whether it would live or not.

Not something you usually see on a Shetland pony

"We didn't really want anybody to know about it because with the genetic mixture we've got with the two different species, we thought it might not survive," he told the BBC.

"Now...there's a good chance. She's got her feet, she's drinking well and she's really lively."

Lesley Barwise-Munro said: "It appears perfectly healthy and I can see no reason why this animal should not go on and live a long life - barring any major health problems which could affect any animal."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1408717.stm

29 posted on 06/28/2007 1:19:27 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Must not show this to my daughter. She will want one.

Pet overload, already. Love 'em all!!

30 posted on 06/28/2007 1:51:28 PM PDT by lysie
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To: Duchess47

Hey Duchess! So according to your source, since the father of this crossbreed is a horse and the mother is a zebra, then it’s REALLY a genetic rarity since the father has more chromosomes than the mother and that’s not supposed to work. Interesting! I’ve seen several Zorses, (father zebra/mother horse) so I think they’re fairly common, but all of them have looked pretty similar in that they were a light brown color with darker brown stripes and looked fairly mule-like. The coloration on this one is just really bizarre. My guess is that the father must’ve been a pinto of some sort.


31 posted on 06/29/2007 6:53:34 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Don't take life too seriously. No one gets out alive.)
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A Zorse...


32 posted on 06/29/2007 6:57:23 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Don't take life too seriously. No one gets out alive.)
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To: FrogInABlender
Good morning :)

I keep looking at the picture wondering if it's real or not. I've seen pictures of several hybrids but never like that. Definately very rare if true.

33 posted on 06/29/2007 6:59:49 AM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: marsapan

No.. well, maybe.


34 posted on 06/29/2007 7:18:46 AM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: Duchess47

Well, if it’s Shopped, it’s a very convincing forgery. But you’re right, you never really know these days.


35 posted on 06/29/2007 7:19:23 AM PDT by FrogInABlender (Don't take life too seriously. No one gets out alive.)
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To: tuffydoodle
"saddle club ping? Is this real?"

Yes, your ping was real.
36 posted on 06/29/2007 7:19:51 AM PDT by Maximus of Texas (On my signal, pull my finger.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Here's my invention, the "Catterfly."
37 posted on 06/29/2007 7:22:41 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thanks!
Now that is a cool pick.. lol


38 posted on 06/29/2007 9:52:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: Duchess47

Thanks for the BBC piece! It fills in the gaps.


39 posted on 06/29/2007 9:53:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... For want of a few good men, a once great nation was lost.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Here's a related link on MSN that proves that the photo isn't shopped. You have to sit through a commercial, and the link doesn't take you straight to the desired video, but you can scroll down and select the horse/zebra story and it'll play.
40 posted on 06/29/2007 12:52:23 PM PDT by FrogInABlender (Don't take life too seriously. No one gets out alive.)
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