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1 posted on 06/23/2007 5:01:29 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Yet the most recent US school atrocity involved Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui, who was NOT on medication when he gunned down 32 people two months ago.

Hence the word "most" in Travolta's statement.

2 posted on 06/23/2007 5:04:01 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: neverdem

Johnny has it right. Good for him...in fact, it is time to watch Grease and Phenomenon again :-)


3 posted on 06/23/2007 5:04:53 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: neverdem

Yeah, Scientologists have always been critical of drugs like Ritalin - and sugar, too.

I don’t think he’s right here, but lenient gun laws aren’t to blame, either. The shooter(s) are to blame.


4 posted on 06/23/2007 5:06:09 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: neverdem

Well, at least he’s not blaming the guns. :-P


5 posted on 06/23/2007 5:06:28 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: neverdem

Spoken like a true Scientologist.


6 posted on 06/23/2007 5:07:04 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: neverdem

Excellent link!

Thanks..


7 posted on 06/23/2007 5:08:02 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: neverdem

"Leave me alone you mean-old FReepers."

8 posted on 06/23/2007 5:09:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: neverdem

Travolta and Cruise may have opinions, but they have zero credibility on this issue. Stick to acting, girls.


9 posted on 06/23/2007 5:09:47 PM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: neverdem
Uh John...What does Tony Manero think about this issue? Probably has more to say about it than you who impersonated him.


John as Tony

10 posted on 06/23/2007 5:10:29 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: neverdem

Although I can’t decide whether I loathe or detest Travolta and Scientology more...

I have to agree with him.

But, I DON’T have to watch his crappy movies.


11 posted on 06/23/2007 5:10:31 PM PDT by JB in Whitefish
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To: neverdem

Opinions are like peaches - some are just right and some are rotten.

This opinion by John Travolta shows a degree of intelligence I was not aware he possessed.


15 posted on 06/23/2007 5:14:28 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: neverdem
Read some personal experiences here Drug Awareness
17 posted on 06/23/2007 5:18:03 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents or anyone just passing through)
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To: neverdem
“I don’t want to create controversy. I’ve an opinion.”

I might have to give him a pass here,
but this is the strongly stated position of the Church of Scientology
And he is a disciple. This suggests it is not his opinion,
but one extending directly from his Church.

As a physician, I am intimately aware of the Blessings and Curses
of attempting to alter the fundamental pathways of mind.
The brain is an intimate dance, and altering that dance often
brings out the Law of Unintended Consequences

18 posted on 06/23/2007 5:19:58 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: neverdem
A shame that site is so out dated. Better living through better chemistry is an absolute recipe for disaster.

As for the premise of the article, how ‘gun control’ would have limited the deaths, I’ve not been able to figure out. Had students been able to use their concealed carry permits on campus, one wonders if that would have been a deterrent, or if one of the students could have taken him out.

Perhaps what we really need is a website to keep track of the number of casualties from 'gun control'.

19 posted on 06/23/2007 5:20:43 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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He’s right. Government schools having been commandeered by the leftists and offshoot groups (feminists, gays) have been warping the minds of young boys for decades. And when they haven’t been able o fully extinguish the last vestige of masculinity, they finish the job by force feeding them mind altering drugs. If there is any sanity left in his nation, Government schools will be abolished...Delenda est!
21 posted on 06/23/2007 5:22:55 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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Wow, that’s a link that will depress you just reading it. I was given Zoloft, and almost quit smoking entirely. I lost my insurance and could not afford the 107.00 per month to purchase out of pocket, so I weaned myself off. No nasty side affects.

Got insurance through the county. Was prescribed Paxil. Ended up flushing that crap down the toilet, because I had bad thoughts over my health problems. Yes, those kinds of bad thoughts. Luckily I’m 47, not 12. They put my son on Celexa when he was in his early teens. He carved his arms up with a razor blade. I threw it out.

I think all you can do is monitor your medication, or that of your loved ones to make sure that it isn’t doing more harm than good.


22 posted on 06/23/2007 5:25:20 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: neverdem

Well, he’s not entirely wrong here.

They are passing Ritalin out like friggin candy to schoolkids. A bunch of us would’ve been targeted for drugs because we were quiet, or independent, etc. etc. - if Ritalin would have been around then.

Of course the shooters are personally responsible. But I also believe that being on those drugs may affect their perception and emotions and make things seem so much worse than they think they are.

Case in point: my 50 year old uncle is been getting a weekly shot for about 1/2 a year now to deal with hepatitis c from a tattoo shop he went to. A known side effect of this medicine is big time depression. They have to be watched really closely by other family members because this drug makes people so depressed they can go suicidal.

So it is not surprising that some of these many, many drugs they pump into kids distorts how they feel about things and make things seem hopeless even though they really are not.


25 posted on 06/23/2007 5:34:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: neverdem

Come out of the closet John.....

26 posted on 06/23/2007 5:37:50 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (I believe that's my stapler....)
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To: neverdem

Scientologists have some things right, but mostly for entirely the wrong reasons.

Scientology is against phsychotropic drugs because their own brand of brain washing is not effective to those on it. Scientologists prefer to use mental problems as an excuse to recruit and program new members.

Scientologists hate psychiatrists for the same reason, their insanity does not bear inspection. L. Ron Hubbard was a bona fide lunatic - any shrink could see it in 5 minutes. So I’m sure the anti-psychiatric hysteria was mostly self-serving for Hubbard at first.


33 posted on 06/23/2007 6:00:22 PM PDT by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT Bank of Anti-America!)
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To: neverdem

He was not on HIS medication. Had he taken some previously?

It can create dependencies and shift the imbalance.

Not saying that prescriptions are the cure. Locking up the criminally insane IS the cure. Put them under house arrest with their legal guardian keeping tabs on them.

No gun purchases because there is no free movement.

If these people are not going to be “responsible” for their own actions then someone who IS mentally capable should be responsible for them.

This is not about “prosecuting” the legal guardian for the misdeeds of the incompetent, it is about keeping the incompetent from acting out. The loaded gun of mental instability is already established.

Harsh?

We lock up and suspend the licenses of “drunk” drivers at 0.08 (or less) because they MAY do harm, not because they HAVE done harm.

My solution only requires an ankle monitor. No government insane asylum, no government prison cell.

We are told that the Virginia Tech shooter was “functional”. No he wasn’t. He could “pass” for normal but he was not functional. His writings and photo and video works show his rage. And eventually he did TAKE OUT his agression. He didn’t “snap”. He’d been there for a long time.


52 posted on 06/24/2007 10:56:42 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on Americans who will ABC get to read the conservative rebuttal?)
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