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Family Of Boy Killed By Bear Blames Forest Service
The Associated Press ^ | Jun 19, 2007

Posted on 06/19/2007 10:15:47 PM PDT by george76

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the same bear had attacked campers in the same spot hours earlier.

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1 posted on 06/19/2007 10:15:52 PM PDT by george76
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To: jazusamo; girlangler

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2 posted on 06/19/2007 10:18:18 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Does anyone know if there was food in the tent? And if so, did the Forest Service put it there?


3 posted on 06/19/2007 10:18:52 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: Redcloak; B4Ranch; GladesGuru

This bear should have been removed by the forest service before the attack.

This was apparently a repeat offender. A problem bear.


4 posted on 06/19/2007 10:23:31 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Prayers for the boy’s family. I can’t imagine the heartbreak. It does seem logical that the campers should have been warned.


5 posted on 06/19/2007 10:30:18 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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To: george76

The forest service is primarily to blame for not letting campers bring rifles into the campground.


6 posted on 06/19/2007 10:31:33 PM PDT by farmer18th
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Hunting rules have been limited in many places.

The bears have been taught bad lessons.


7 posted on 06/19/2007 10:33:45 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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You can remove attractants; you can warn the critters you’re there, but going into the wild without the means of protecting yourself is really, really stupid—as is the policy that sanctions this stupidity.


8 posted on 06/19/2007 10:35:24 PM PDT by farmer18th
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Why do people feel the need to blame someone else? If you camp in the woods with wild animals, there is a risk involved. Their loss is tragic, just suck it up and deal with it. Quit whining to the media. Whatever happened to suffering in silence?

Personally, I blame the tent manufacturers for not printing labels on their tents warning of possible bear attacks.


9 posted on 06/19/2007 10:38:02 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: farmer18th

Liberals may also bring little brass bear bells to warn bears and lions to run away.


10 posted on 06/19/2007 10:38:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; Redcloak

As Redcloak asked, “Does anyone know if there was food in the tent?”

Was their signs out in the open warning the cityfolk campers that they were in bear country and to suspend all foodstuffs in the air.

Fighting a bear for that cooler full of food is losing battle. Being stupid is probably the most common reason for bear attacks on people.


11 posted on 06/19/2007 10:41:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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the same bear had attacked campers in the same spot hours earlier.

Yes, they should have been warned of this. Who would want to go to sleep in this spot? Yikes.

12 posted on 06/19/2007 10:46:01 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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Being stupid is probably the most common reason for bear attacks on people.

I read a book by a guy who chronicled about 20 bear attacks and his conclusions were a bit different--that some bears are just surly, the way some people are just surly, and that most of the attacks were not precipitated by people who do "stupid things." They were precipitated by bears who are willing to kill people--sometimes without even eating them. The stupid thing is to be in the wild and not have the means to protect yourself.
13 posted on 06/19/2007 10:46:44 PM PDT by farmer18th
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Your conclusion is the exact twin of mine.

“The stupid thing is to be in the wild and not have the means to protect yourself.”


14 posted on 06/19/2007 10:51:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: farmer18th

The 100-pound elderly woman didn’t have a chance against a 275-pound bear in the kitchen of her home...

A 93-year-old New Mexico woman was mauled to death by a black bear that broke into her home over the weekend, stunned wildlife officials have confirmed. Adelia Maestas Trujillo of Cleveland, in north-central New Mexico, was killed “by multiple bite injuries,” ...

By Joe Garner
Scripps Howard News Service
August 21, 2001


15 posted on 06/19/2007 10:54:25 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: B4Ranch

Not just in the wilds :

She was a 5-foot-3, 105-pound hiker, out for a Sunday walk. He was a 400-pound hulking young bruin officials described as “predatory,” looking for a meal. She said he came up behind her on a trail in Wawayanda State Park in Sussex County, chased her down and tackled her. She said she did the only thing she could. She threw a hard elbow at his snout, and caught him flush, stunning the bear and giving her time to escape.

“This bear was in predatory mode,” said Jack Kaskey, a state Department of Environmental Protection spokesman. “This was classic predatory behavior. The bear was out to eat her. She had to fight for her life.”

Predatory Black Bear Attack
By Jim Lockwood
Newark Star Ledger
August 12, 2003


16 posted on 06/19/2007 10:56:51 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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There are furry bears that walk on four legs and there are smooth skinned bears that walk on two legs. Not having the means to protect yourself is what I consider to be stupid.

My little 120 pound wife knows that her 12 guage Bennelli will take care of both types and she keeps it ready to go. She’s not stupid.


17 posted on 06/19/2007 11:09:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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I guess what I find a little annoying about the “official” wildlife line is that it tends to build on platitudes like “they were here first,” and “we are visiting their home,” as though wild animals shared the same moral universe as human beings. It would be refreshing for the official line to be: “these are wild animals; they might kill you. Have a nice day.”


18 posted on 06/19/2007 11:10:55 PM PDT by farmer18th
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To: B4Ranch

We agree : self defense is the best choice.


19 posted on 06/19/2007 11:11:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: farmer18th

Every time I have ever been in a federal park I make sure that I have the means to protect myself from whatever is out there. Legal? Probably not but I’m still alive.


20 posted on 06/19/2007 11:12:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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