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Paris Hilton Sent Back to Jail
Fox News | 6/8/07

Posted on 06/08/2007 12:23:57 PM PDT by pabianice

A "screaming" Paris Hilton has been dragged off to serve her full 45 days in jail. Reportedly screamed and called to her mother as she was taken away. More.


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To: LetGoNow; Lizarde
Maybe, just maybe, some of us see past whether a person has money or not and judges the person by their actions.

Some may well do so..., indeed.

However, it doesn't seem to be the method of operation of certain officials and the public's "gladiatior mentality" where they love to see someone "getting it" -- especially where one has the benefits of certain things that they've felt deprived of. So, it's the public's chance to vicariously beat up on someone like that, while certain officials enjoy playing along with the public.

Let’s see. Paris Hilton.

1. Slut city.

Okay, well, "slut city" seems to be an appropriate moniker for the majority of the girls these days. It seems to fit well within our society and on TV and in everything that people do. Slut City, USA could be the address of a majority of the girls that come up through grade school, junior high, high school and college. All you have to do is think "Girls Gone Wild" for the milder aspects of it, with the more overt aspects not spoken about in polite company.

2. Thinks she is better than the “little people” because she has money.

Well, that certainly fits a lot of people. You can add in anything there. People are "seemingly" better than others because of job, education, money, car, house, family, social group, and you name it. Listen to people and you'll come up with a long list for that one.

3. Thinks the law does not apply to her.

And that certainly applies to a large group of people. That's for sure. These days it seems that laws don't apply to people unless they get caught, and then the real crime was getting caught, not the original violation. If you really talk to people about the many laws and rules and regulations that they violate on a daily basis, it all comes down to "it doesn't apply to me in this particular situation," or "it doesn't really matter very much," or a whole host of other reasons. This is a "national pastime" with our population...

4. Snotty all the way.

Yes, "humble" does seem to be a rare commodity, these days -- with a large majority of our population -- especially when our society is teaching everyone to think about themselves, primarily, over everyone else. You are to enhance everything about yourself, at the expense of everyone else, because you're the one who counts the most, over and above everyone else. Self-esteem is the primary currency in this one. You certainly can't let anyone else step all over one's self-esteem and how "you" (as it applies to each person) are the most important person in the picture.

Plenty to hate there and nothing to do with her having money. It’s people like you that are all concerned about class warfare and money. Most of us don’t care.

Yes, plenty to hate there, for sure, since we, as a society have built that into everyone as a set of goals to achieve for everyone of us. Paris Hilton ends up being the poster girl for how our society wants to "raise us" to be.

But, since there's no point in "hating ourselves" (works against self-esteem, doncha know...), society will pick on a "celebrity status figure" to vent their abhorrence of what they've each, individually become, in and of themselves.

My opinion? You are a pot trying to call a piece of china “black”.

My opinion? Well, very simply that society has come to the point of self-loathing, and certain celebrity figures make good lightning rods for the vapid nature of the public in their own vapid lives, instead of focusing in on themselves.

Regards,
Star Traveler

801 posted on 06/10/2007 5:22:28 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I understand you better now. Thanks.


802 posted on 06/10/2007 5:34:32 AM PDT by LetGoNow (Listen up punk. The colors are red, white, and blue, not red, white, and green. Got that? Now scram!)
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To: wardaddy

One gets the sense you have a deep appreciation for, and a well developed empathy with, lawbreakers and prison inmates.

Wanna share how that came about?


803 posted on 06/10/2007 5:42:41 AM PDT by LetGoNow (Listen up punk. The colors are red, white, and blue, not red, white, and green. Got that? Now scram!)
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To: LetGoNow
One gets the sense you have a deep appreciation for, and a well developed empathy with, lawbreakers and prison inmates.

Why?

Because I'm not all wet over some trust fund bimbo sobbing being drug off the jail?

Sorry...I get happy over other stuff like puppies and babies.

804 posted on 06/10/2007 9:12:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: wardaddy
"I do wonder though why ya'll feel compelled to personally disparage the motives and character of folks you disagree with over this. One is seduced by her looks. One is not really conservative. One approves of promiscuity, etc. when the argument is over whether her sentencing was customary or not in LA county. Plain and simple. The statistics will prove that ..yes or no and all the pundits I've seen say she got hammered." 1. Please cite for me where I questioned your motives. I've seen plenty of people suggest that those advocating the enforcement of her sentence are engaging in class envy, but I never questioned your motives in kind. 2. For the umpteenth time, the issue is not over whether or not the sentence was "customary" --- the issue is over whether or not the sentence should be enforced and WHO should make that decision. It is NOT the role of law enforcement to make decisions about the "fairness" of a sentence -- that is the job of the courts .....PERIOD. If Hilton's lawyers don't think the sentence was fair, let them appeal.

"I don't understand your vitriol at Hilton but that's fine .." Well, I've explained it to you. If you don't have a problem with the impact Hilton and those like her have on young girls, that is up to you. She sends a message to young women that education and hard work aren't important. Partying, promiscuity, vanity and possessions are. There is a frightening trend toward "entitlement" among our young women. Dr, Phil has covered this. Laura Ingraham has discussed this extensively on many occasions -- cars and expensive clothes are no longer enough -- now the trend is plastic surgery. Several years ago, Bernie Goldberg, who also wrote "Bias", listed the 100 people who are screwing up America. Paris Hilton's parents were on that list and he is spot on! I'm surprised a pro-life, pro-culture war father of daughters doesn't see this.

Apparently Hilton's handlers have seen the public sentiment and have, wisely, decided to drop it --- at least for now. (I don't seriously think Paris penned that statement herself, but the result is the same.) The bottom line is she will been serving the sentence she was given and that is a good thing -- both for Hilton and for society.
805 posted on 06/10/2007 9:12:31 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: wardaddy

Your answer was a pathetic attempt at obfuscation. My observation still stands and I have to wonder what has made you that way.

Now will you please answer my questions?


806 posted on 06/10/2007 9:35:40 AM PDT by LetGoNow (Listen up punk. The colors are red, white, and blue, not red, white, and green. Got that? Now scram!)
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To: wardaddy
You and the other lady on this thread I've been arguing with are not the first folks I've seen here gloat over crime and punishment.

I'm not gloating. I'm stunned that anyone would minimize the danger she poses to others. She has totally disregarded everything the law has told her. She has not complied with any of her restrictions, didn't attend drunk driving school and never paid her fine. And drove on a suspended. She drinks and drives and we know she does drugs too. She just hasn't been caught driving while on drugs. With the 2nd DOSL, she was speeding and driving without headlights. How can you minimize that? You think she didn't deserve jail time. House arrest doesn't work. She was going to have a party for being released but went back to jail. How would house arrest be a deterrent? The punishment is supposed to "cost" you something. Having a PARTAAAAY is celebrating getting away with it.

This woman believes there are no boundaries for her. On the road she's traveling, she could easily end up dead and taking someone with her. Her disregard for law is serious.

807 posted on 06/10/2007 9:44:01 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Bronzewound
I read that long response of yours.

And you call me irrational?

You can’t even put forth a good argument without stepping on your own pretzel logic.

Not worth any more of my time.

808 posted on 06/10/2007 9:59:17 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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To: LetGoNow

Why would I share diddly with an obvious wideawakes retread.

thanks anyhow..


809 posted on 06/10/2007 10:02:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: DJ MacWoW

btw...you or soccermom said I would not be defending Rosie if she were in trouble....it would depend on the circumstances.

I defended Martha Stewart as being singled out here and she is no babe and certainly a huge liberal.

I base my views on what is presented as fair, customary or just plain facts in these cases from all I can glean from folks who should know in the papers and on TV. The emotive reasoning on display here and ijn the general public should be irrelevant.

You and others keep on and on about so much tangential stuff that has nothing to do with the circumstances of her charges and sentencing. The tangential stuff(slut, drugs, liberal, no boundaries, etc) should not matter except in the court of public opinion which ya’ll are admiteedly on the majority side.

It seems like vindicative spectator sport to me but have fun. We’re beating dead horses here.


810 posted on 06/10/2007 10:11:38 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: soccermom
Partying, promiscuity, vanity and possessions are.

Very few women (and some men) who are not guilty of the last two as well.

I'm surprised a pro-life, pro-culture war father of daughters doesn't see this.

Hilton's lifestyle is not on trial, of course I don't approve of it nor most of what passes for American youth kulture today but again that is all irrelavant in court. I'm not arguing about judge's authority here, but I have questioned his departure from his normal sentencing patterns for her. That is the only issue I care about with Hilton, the rest is not part of it for me anyhow.

thanks for the concise post btw....

811 posted on 06/10/2007 10:17:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: wardaddy
Her behaviour certainly is relevant. Character is relevant to sentencing. And the court recognizes that by having probation do a report on CHARACTER.

You minimize her disregard for law. If you had not paid a fine in 6 months nor attended court ordered drunk driving class and got caught DOSL, how long would YOU get in jail? Longer than Paris.

812 posted on 06/10/2007 10:54:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Al Gator
I read that long response of yours. And you call me irrational?

Yes, and I wasn't the only one who did.

You can’t even put forth a good argument without stepping on your own pretzel logic.

At least I put forth an argument and backed up my points. Thus far you have not. For example, prove from anything I've written here that I am, as you put it, "so jealous of the little bimbo that I can't stand myself".

Or, prove your point that Mexicans (I believe you refer to them as "beaners"), are running around killing Americans because they are jealous of us.

Or expose precisely where my logic is twisted and steps on itself. Don't just say it; prove it.

Not worth any more of my time.

The standard cop out when unable to actually prove your own assertions.


813 posted on 06/10/2007 11:27:15 AM PDT by Bronzewound
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To: DJ MacWoW
You minimize her disregard for law

I have not.

I have only said she has been sentenced disproportionately to others from the opinions I've seen on TV and in the print media and heard on Talk radio.

That's all. It's a matter of perspective which diverges tween you and I. We can argue again when she gets out half way thru on 1/1 good time

Have fun freeping.

814 posted on 06/10/2007 11:33:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: wardaddy
"Very few women (and some men) who are not guilty of the last two as well." Agreed, but Paris is the poster child for these and I think, in her case, it is to an extreme level. I don't know many women who have pictures of themselves (almost exclusively) plastered all over their homes, do you? But you're right, vanity and materialism are on the rise, as I noted in the previous post -- specifically among our teens. Hilton is the embodiment of these vices. She promotes those vices.

"Hilton's lifestyle is not on trial, of course I don't approve of it nor most of what passes for American youth kulture today but again that is all irrelavant in court." Of course. But, again, you asked why I have contempt for her and I am telling you why. Just like you have contempt for Rosie O'Donnell and would not like it if her celebrity status got her out of a jail sentence. "I'm not arguing about judge's authority here, but I have questioned his departure from his normal sentencing patterns for her. That is the only issue I care about with Hilton, the rest is not part of it for me anyhow." OK, so why object to a thread that merely applauds her being sent back to jail? The outrage for us, and it was palpable all over the media, was the fact that she was given a pass on her sentence. We're merely applauding the fact that she didn't get away with it. I assume you think that is a good thing --- that she wasn't able to get out of her sentence.
815 posted on 06/10/2007 12:28:57 PM PDT by soccermom
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To: wardaddy
I have only said she has been sentenced disproportionately to others from the opinions I've seen on TV and in the print media and heard on Talk radio.

And you believe talking heads rather than the law that was quoted. Typical.

816 posted on 06/10/2007 12:45:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: wardaddy
Now that the 9mos old grandson is down for a nap, I'll give you a better answer.

I DON'T watch TV. I DID read the law. From what I've read on here, newsies are sympathetic to Hilton and, why not? She could be them. The lawyers only want face time and will say anything that is required of them. Heck I read on FR that some lawyer said on Larry King that Hilton will be out Monday ON BAIL. You get bail after sentencing? Instead of serving your sentence? Maybe we should send the laws to them.

I have only said she has been sentenced disproportionately to others

Not a fair statement since we know of no one else that completely disregarded their sentence and probation. AND had 2 more driving infractions. And therein lies the problem. Are the talking heads being honest about Hiltons case? Stating exactly what she did and did not do?

On another thread, an acquaintance of the family is saying that there is a family meeting going on because Hilton is out of control. THEY are taking this seriously.

817 posted on 06/10/2007 1:42:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: 04-Bravo

bail pending appeal was his thoughts probably.


818 posted on 06/10/2007 4:17:33 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I didn’t think of that.


819 posted on 06/10/2007 4:37:21 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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To: Frank Sheed; Lurker; conservatism_IS_compassion; freema; mdittmar; Milhous; abb; bert; Peacerose; ..

GREAT post.

This sad spoiled trollop epitomizes ungratefulness for the sacrifices that have given her the liberty to take her liberties.

Now if everybody will stop visiting web sites and Youtube links that have anything to do with her, this bile will fall off the radar. Pass it on.

Except, of course, the fact that we need to make sure that the criminal justice aspects of this situation are not ignored! Pass that on, too.


820 posted on 06/10/2007 7:00:54 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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