Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

In '57, final days of summer moved New York (50 Years Ago, the National League's Rape of New York)
The Washington Times ^ | May 28, 2007 | Dick Heller

Posted on 05/28/2007 11:00:20 PM PDT by TBP

The vote was unanimous, and so Walter O'Malley of the Brooklyn Dodgers and Horace Stoneham of the New York Giants had permission to move their ballclubs to the West Coast. The date was May 28, 1957, 50 years ago today, and to some the idea was unthinkable. New York without National League baseball? Without the Giants of John McGraw and the Dodgers of Jackie Robinson? Without the most intense rivalry in all sports? It seemed like a dream, a nightmare to many. But although O'Malley and Stoneham claimed it was far from definite that their teams would move -- after all, they still had four months of bills to pay in what later would be called the Big Apple -- the deed essentially was done. And that September it became official. O'Malley, the Dodgers' devious boss, was responsible. For years he had demanded that New York build him a huge stadium in Brooklyn to replace decaying, 33,000-seat Ebbets Field, making impossible demands of Mayor Robert Wagner and parks commissioner Robert Moses. Finally, Moses agreed to let him have "a nice parcel of land" in Queens. "But then they won't be the Brooklyn Dodgers," said O'Malley, shedding crocodile tears. In truth, O'Malley had no intention of staying, even though the Dodgers were the second-most profitable team in the league behind the Milwaukee Braves, who had cashed in big after abandoning Boston. The vast Los Angeles area had only one major professional sports team, the NFL's Rams, and was sure to be a baseball hotbed.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: brooklyndodgers; losangeles; newyorkgiants; sanfrancisco
Although nobody denies that Los Angeles and San Francisco belong in the major leagues, what the National League did to New York that day was heartless, unthinkable, and grossly unfair -- especially to the good people of Brooklyn, who were supporting their team well.

Brooklyn should be given a chance to get back in MLB.

1 posted on 05/28/2007 11:00:23 PM PDT by TBP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TBP

Move the Mets to Brooklyn?


2 posted on 05/28/2007 11:28:44 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JillValentine

Too late, they’re already getting a new stadium in Queens, right next to Shea.

I still can’t get over the fact that the Yankees are building a new stadium. Yankess Stadium should be declared a national monument. And I live in Philly!

Yeah, Brooklyn got the shaft when the Dodgers left, but it was inevitable...SOMEONE was going to jump to the lucrative, untapped California baseball market. Too bad it wasn’t the Phillies.....


3 posted on 05/29/2007 12:16:16 AM PDT by Sterm26 (Death before Dhimmitude!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: JillValentine

Tehy’re building a new ballpark, Citi Field, on the parking lot of Shea. It’s a replica of Ebbets Field with a retractable roof. I’d like to see a third team in New York. I think it reduces he overwhelming advantage of that market. (It would still be an advantage, just one that you can overcome if you work at it.)


4 posted on 05/29/2007 3:56:07 PM PDT by TBP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: JillValentine

Move the Marlins there?


5 posted on 05/29/2007 9:18:27 PM PDT by TBP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Sterm26
Too late, they’re already getting a new stadium in Queens, right next to Shea.

Citi Field, as I noted above.

BTW, the parcel where Shea and Citi Field sit is the "nice parcel of land" in Queens that Robert Moses offered O'Malley. And the site in Brooklyn that O'Malley had his eye on, at Atlantic and Flatbush, is slated to be the site of a enw basketball arena for teh New Jersey Nets.

6 posted on 05/29/2007 9:21:03 PM PDT by TBP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Sterm26
Too bad it wasn’t the Phillies.....

Well, either the A's of the Phils were going. Had it been the Phils who moved, Baltimore would probably not have gotten into the AL. The Browns had previously flirted with moving to LA. Who knows?

BTW, when the leagues were first expanding, O'Malley threatened to use territorial rights to keep the American League out of LA. But the Yankees stepped forward and said that if he tried, they would invoke thier rights and keep the National League out of New York. O'Malley backed down.

And it was O'Malley who recruited Ray Kroc of McDonald's to buy the San Diego Padres and keep them from moving to Washington.

7 posted on 05/29/2007 9:37:39 PM PDT by TBP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: TBP
What is this baseball thing you talk about, I've never heard of it.

Is it something like the English girls game 'rounders'?

8 posted on 05/29/2007 9:43:36 PM PDT by Dinsdale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dinsdale

Girls can throw pretty hard.


9 posted on 05/29/2007 10:29:20 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: TBP

Three MLB teams in New York? I’d like to get an NFL team for LA first.

Two-hour drive to the Chargers’ games (if the traffic’s good, which it never is)...


10 posted on 05/29/2007 10:31:24 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: JillValentine
Maybe back in then there were three MLB teams in New York...Now, New York has the exciting, crazy, amaz'n Mets and that other minor league baseball team in the Bronx.
11 posted on 05/30/2007 12:06:24 PM PDT by never4get
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson