The Bat Creek Stone

OSU ^ | December 2005 | J. Huston McCulloch

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[T]he most telling difference between the Bat Creek and Masonic inscriptions is in the different ways the two words are separated. Macoy's illustrator, who was undoubtedly working from a newly-available dictionary chart of Jewish War coinscript letters to transcribe standard Square Hebrew into the older alphabet, erroneously assumed that the words should be separated by a space, as in English or modern Hebrew. Bat Creek instead correctly uses a word divider. There is no way this subtle detail could have been copied from Macoy's illustration, even if the copyist threw in a few random changes to disguise his or her source... My reply to the new Mainfort and Kwas article, enumerating these and other considerations, was summarily rejected by American Antiquity as being "far outside the expertise and interests of the readership." It has nevertheless been accepted for publication in Pre-Columbiana, and a PDF of the draft is online at http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/AmerAntiq.pdf.

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Thanks frgoff

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Missouri Cherokee Tribes proclaim Jewish Heritage
Christians Unite dot com | February 7, 2003 | Editorial Staff
Posted on 02/21/2003 4:42:37 PM EST by vannrox
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/848921/posts

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J. Huston McCulloch Professor of Economics and Finance Ohio State University

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lots of stuff here, found while nosing around the author’s directory:

Some Archaeological Outliers: Adventures in Underground Archaeology
http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/outliers.html

Authority may be a hint as to what the truth is, but is not the source of information. As long as it’s possible, we should disregard authority whenever the observations disagree with it. — Richard P. Feynman

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Statue found in Olmec ruins in Mexico (Put a skullcap on this guy)

[Fred Nerks]

from your link Civ:

http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/maize.html

Maize? Compare:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl.htm

Winged Eagle-Headed Being (Genie); Neo-Assyrian period, reign of Ashurnasirpal II (r. 883–859 B.C.), Mesopotamia; excavated at Nimrud (ancient Kalhu), Alabaster (gypsum)

Looks more like a pine-cone...perhaps used in pollination.

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OLMEC

Mythic Olmec figure with Jaguar mask on Quetzalcoatle, sculpture from the ancient Olmec site of La Venta (Mexico). Olmecs are considered to be the oldest Meso American Culture.

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http://www.oannes.com/

Berosus writes, "In the first year there appeared from the Erythraean Sea (the Red Sea), in the region of Babylonia, a living creature, strong and terrible, named Oannes. It had the entire body of a fish, but another head stood forth beneath, under the head of the fish, and feet as of a man stood forth out of the tail of the fish. And it had the voice of a man." He continues to write stating that, "Oannes delivered to men the knowledge of writing and mathematics, and of all the branches of the arts; the plans of cities and the building of temples, the essentials of laws and customs, and the measurement of lands, and showed them the way with seeds and the gathering of fruits..."

The Sumerians credited the development of letters, arts and sciences to a legenday figure by the name of Oannes. He was a visitor to the Mesopotamian Valley approximately 6,000 years ago...

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Related to the Dogon visitors?... The fishy body

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.meta-religion.com/World_Religions/Ancient_religions/Africa/dogon_theory_of_creation.htm

The Dogon tells the legend of the Nommos, awful-looking beings who arrived in a vessel along with fire and thunder.

After they arrived here - they put out a reservoir of water onto the Earth then dove into the water.

There are references in the oral traditions, drawings and cuneiform tablets of the Dogons, to human looking beings who have feet but who are portrayed as having a large fish skin running down their bodies.

The Nommos were more fishlike than human, and had to live in water. They were saviors and spiritual guardians: “The Nommo divided his body among men to feed them; that is why it is also said that as the universe “had drunk of his body,” the Nommo also made men drink. He gave all his life principles to human beings.”

The Nommo was crucified and resurrected and in the future will again visit the Earth, this time in human form. Later he will assume his amphibious form and will rule the world from the waters.

Dogon mythology is known only by a number of their priests, and is a complex system of knowledge. Such carefully guarded secrets would not be divulged to friendly strangers very easily. If the star Emme Ya is eventually discovered in the Sirius system, this would give considerably weight to the Dogon’s story.

The Nommos, who could live on land but dwelled mostly in the sea, were part fish, like merfolk (mermaids and mermen).

Similar creatures have been noted in other ancient civilizations — Sumer, Babylonia’s Oannes, Acadia’s Ea, Sumer’s Enki, and Egypt’s goddess Isis...

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That was quick, Fred! BTW, the tiny little star has been found and it is not visible to the naked eye, only via telescope.

[Fred Nerks]

FROM THE SAME LINK:

(I hesitate to quote Sagan...but here goes anyway.)

The Dogon also claimed that a third star (Emme Ya) existed in the Sirius system. Larger and lighter than Sirius B, this star revolved around Sirius as well. And around it orbited a planet from which the Nommos came. (Sirius A).
Acccording to Robert Temple’s Book The Sirius Mystery, the Dogon, a tribe of about 100,000 in western Africa, have had contact with extraterrestrials. One of Temple’s main pieces of evidence is the tribe’s alleged knowledge of Sirius B, a companion to the star Sirius. The Dogon are supposed to know that Sirius B orbits Sirius and that a complete orbit takes fifty years. One of the pieces of evidence Temple cites is a sand picture made by the Dogon to explain their beliefs. There are a number of other astronomical beliefs held by the Dogon which are curious; e.g., traditional belief in a heliocentric system and elliptical orbits of astronomical phenomena; knowledge of satellites of Jupiter and rings of Saturn, among other things. Where did they get this knowledge, if not from extraterrestrial visitors? They don’t have telescopes or other scientific equipment, so how could they get this knowledge?

Carl Sagan concludes that the Dogon could not have acquired their knowledge without contact with an advanced technological civilisation. He suggests, however, that that civilisation was terrestrial rather than extraterrestrial. Western Africa has had many visitors from technological societies located on planet Earth. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. As Sagan notes, if a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920s and 1930s, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the centre of Dogon mythology...

(personally, I believe the Dogon brought their myths with them...they are supposedly originally from Egypt.)

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I was a Sagan fan. There are so many questions and so few answers ...