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NYSE undertakes IBM mainframe migration to Unix and Linux
SearchDataCenter ^ | May 14 2007 | Mark Fontecchio

Posted on 05/17/2007 10:24:57 PM PDT by dayglored

NYSE undertakes IBM mainframe migration to Unix and Linux

The New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) is migrating off a 1,600 millions of instructions per second (MIPS) mainframe to IBM System p servers running AIX and x86 Hewlett-Packard Co. (HP) servers running Linux, with the first part of the move going live today...

...(SIAC), the NYSE's technology arm, said the bottom line for the migration was the bottom line. He estimates the move will halve the cost of transactions, and though he wouldn't detail how much that would mean on a yearly basis, he said it is "serious financial savings, very serious." ...

SIAC could have continued on the mainframe, outsourced to another vendor or tried to rewrite the code to run cleaner, but the group felt that moving to another platform was the most feasible solution. Then came the hard part: finding out who could help them get its JCL and COBOL logic to a distributed platform...

Clerity Solutions Inc... uses its UniKix software to ingest the mainframe code and compile it to run on a distributed platform. The recompilation is then tested in the company before it goes live. The AIX platform executes the application of the recompiled code while the Linux boxes handles FTP transfers on the front end. Feldman wouldn't disclose what Linux distribution was running on the HP servers.

Of course, the migration has not gone live yet. SIAC divided the move into a handful of application groups. Feldman would only describe the first application group migration, which will go into production today, as running internal business applications. Down the road, the NYSE will migrate applications supporting online transaction processing and different lines of the NYSE business. The migration is expected to be fully complete by the end of the year.

(Excerpt) Read more at searchdatacenter.techtarget.com ...


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To: ShadowAce

You’ve been traveling overseas to setup these supercomputers based on free software yourself lately, correct? Just putting 2 and 2 together, you say you build these supercomputers based on free software, and travel out of the country a lot too from your posts.


41 posted on 05/18/2007 8:22:03 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: dljordan
The “Big Iron” you so disparagingly speak of is in itself very modern. It’s just a difference in processing power. You can’t run large systems such as Equifax, GE Financial and Choicepoint on Unix servers. It’s economy of scale. You actually need less people to run a large mainframe than a bunch of small boxes.

Ya, I'm a big Unix guy myself, and I'm not entirely sure this move is a good decision.mainframes definitely have a place in the computing world even today. People who aren't really familiar with the different strengths and weaknesses of the various types and classes of hardware, may not understand why you'd want one big computer with tons of IO bandwith for this type of application.

There is a plae for mainframes, just like there is a place for midrange Unix boxes, and a place for desktops because they each fill a particular need. I haven't figured out what MS-Windows is good for yet other than consuming excessive resources, but I'm sure there is something.

42 posted on 05/18/2007 8:41:30 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: zeugma
I haven't figured out what MS-Windows is good for yet other than consuming excessive resources, but I'm sure there is something.

Well, now you're talking software, rather than hardware platforms. Apples and oranges. :)

43 posted on 05/18/2007 8:49:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Check the thread title, it’s about software not hardware. And sellouts like IBM moving our critical systems over to software originating from foreign countries that’s being standardized on in communist countries. Make your case, sounds like you’re personally involved already, as is dayglored probably.


44 posted on 05/18/2007 9:02:36 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: jmc813

Was the problem migrating the scripts security (password, permissions) related? That would not be surprising to me at all, if so.


45 posted on 05/18/2007 9:03:06 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Golden Eagle
But let's do it anyway, since it raises the standard of living in Equador?

Quit your old out-of-context trick.

46 posted on 05/18/2007 9:07:49 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle

You’re losing it. Get help. Fast.


47 posted on 05/18/2007 9:08:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I’m clearly correct here, I’ve always contended that Unix is a better O/S than Linux and this obviously bears it out. American Unix will do the heavy lifting, Linux will fill in some peripheral capacity, it would just be better for Americans if our stock exchange wasn’t using some foreign clone of Unix in the equation at all. Especially one that has such a liberal license that allows infinite redistribution and free access to the source code itself. It’s quite simple, obviously, we should work to use American products, and not foreign clones of our products, especially when our products are clearly superior to begin with.


48 posted on 05/18/2007 9:16:56 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I’m clearly correct here,

Not on any fact relating to Stallman's copyrights that I've argued with you. You are proven wrong in that post with hard numbers from the sources.

I’ve always contended that Unix is a better O/S than Linux and this obviously bears it out

Hopefully people will use what is right for their organization. The free market is a good thing. If AIX was the best answer, then it was, good for IBM.

As far as what's best, that's situational. Amazon finished its move from Solaris to Linux a few years ago, from web servers to a 14-terabyte data warehouse, quickly saving millions of dollars.

we should work to use American products, and not foreign clones of our products

And if I buy it from an American company that got those foreign contributions for free?

49 posted on 05/18/2007 9:49:20 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle

“How long before they move it China?”

Maybe they can move it to the Microsoft development facilities there?

Troll.


50 posted on 05/18/2007 9:50:57 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: Golden Eagle

“So why are we giving them free software? And then moving our stock market over to it?”

Microsoft gave them access to the MS source code.

What’s the big deal?

Anyway “we” didn’t give them free software, a lot of which wasn’t even written in the US. Linux isn’t “American.”


51 posted on 05/18/2007 9:53:08 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: Golden Eagle

“If that were the case they’d be getting us some better deals. IBM sold their PC division to the Chinese governement for about $1.5 Billion, even though it was bringing in $10 Billion/year and IBM hasn’t made that money back up yet.”

It was losing money.

$1.5 billion to get rid of something that lost money... not too bad.


52 posted on 05/18/2007 9:54:44 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

The radical green party leftists behind the Free Software Foundation own more copyrights to Linux than IBM, Sun and Linus Torvalds himself combined. Your very own links have proven this correct, when you attempted to deny what is a commonly known fact.


53 posted on 05/18/2007 10:16:44 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Microsoft doesn’t have anything to do with the software driving the NYSE, does it. You call me a troll then trot out something completely unrelated as an excuse? Microsoft probably won’t be the first to sue Linux for patent infringement either, who you gonna blame then?


54 posted on 05/18/2007 10:20:48 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.

What kind of wierd definition of capitalism is that? Pass it on LMAO.

55 posted on 05/18/2007 10:22:51 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Microsoft gave them access to the MS source code. What’s the big deal?

The right to only view, and not even all of it. Linux allows the communists to make complete copies of it, modify it, and even resell under a different name. That's how China's "Red Flag" Linux came about, as a free and legal copy of "Red Hat" from North Carolina. Wonder how long before they get this version of Linux for free too?

56 posted on 05/18/2007 10:28:57 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
It was losing money.

No it wasn't. From Business Week, prior to the sale:

If sold, IBM's $12 billion PC unit is expected to fetch somewhere between $1 billion to $2 billion. In the first nine months of this year, the PC group reported a $70 million pretax profit on $9.4 billion in sales.

57 posted on 05/18/2007 10:31:01 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: jmc813
jmc813 wrote:
I'm a Unix/Linux fan, but at least the last time I used it 6 years ago, AIX was garbage.

Our projects get ported to Solaris, IRIX, Linux, HPUX and AIX. Including kernel modules and a VFS layer for the file system.

I agree, AIX is not an implementation I would spend my personal money on. Far too much that is a 'little different'.

From the user's perspective it probably doesn't matter though. They don't have to deal with it.
58 posted on 05/18/2007 11:16:37 AM PDT by Verbosus
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To: dayglored

“My first computer was a Burroughs 5500 in the basement of Drexel University in 1970.”

My first was an IBM MOD-50 in 74’. I thought I was so hot! I’ve got 15 days left in this business and I’m not sorry. Goodbye Big Blue!


59 posted on 05/18/2007 12:09:12 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Golden Eagle
The radical green party leftists behind the Free Software Foundation own more copyrights to Linux than IBM, Sun and Linus Torvalds himself combined. Your very own links have proven this correct, when you attempted to deny what is a commonly known fact.

Lie. I attempted no such thing, as I never argued that point. I argued your original point, that the FSF owns the copyright for most code in a Linux distro. I've warned you about switching your argument in the middle.

60 posted on 05/18/2007 2:45:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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