Apple delays Leopard until October because of iPhone

Macworld ^ | 04/12/2007 | Peter Cohen

[JohnSheppard]

ping

[coconutt2000]

This sucks... I was counting on Leopard’s new iCal and CalDav features for the office. SOHO Organizer really sucks.

[martin_fierro]

Feh.

[HAL9000]

So Mac OS X 10.5 will miss the peak of the back-to-school buying season - but it should be in good shape for Christmas.

Fortunately, the current 10.4 release is still an excellent operating system - and certainly better than Windows Vista.

[Swordmaker]

Rats!

PING.

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[tubebender]

Was I right two weeks ago or is this FUD...

[jimtorr]

Yes, the rumours were right about the delay, but I still doubt that the reason is because of Vista.

[AZLiberty]

It’s more likely that the figured out they weren’t losing any sales to Vista, so why hurry.

[mhx]

Yeah, really. Rats. Speaking as someone who’s a happy Mac OS customer and who will probably never be an iPhone customer.

[tubebender]

but I still doubt that the reason is because of Vista.

Does not compute. Where does Vista fit in on the delay?

[Swordmaker]

Was I right two weeks ago or is this FUD...

You were right... but the reason is different.

[Swordmaker]

Where does Vista fit in on the delay?

Two weeks ago, the purported reason for the delay was to make OS X.5 Leopard's version of Boot Camp Vista compliant.

[tubebender]

You are correct. But it is a weaker excuse than the Vista hang up. They should be pushing the release of Leopard to capitalize on Vista’s short comings...

[Yossarian]

I’m bummed out by this - I was supposed to get complimentary Leopard client & server as part of my Apple Developer Program - and that was a big part of my justification of the fee.

But I’m also not surprised. I’m running Leopard right now as I type this, and while I can’t say much (NDA), I’ll say that my impressions are the same as the WWDC keynote: there’s a lot of good & important stuff under the covers (full 64 bit, fully UNIX compliant, opportunities with Core Animation and system-wide to-do lists, etc.), but the “day-to-day” operations with the Finder and basic apps are exactly the same.

Apple really needs those “Top Secret” features that Steve withheld from the keynote in Leopard, and then needs time to debug the whole thing before shipping. Disclosure of features at mid-June WWDC = 4.5 months to debug before end of October. That’s cutting it close. I hope they disclose the new features before that, so they have 6 months to wrap up.

[rzeznikj at stout]

Many times better...

Heck, Vista’s so bad, I’d take OS 9 over it...8^)

[George W. Bush]

Disappointing. But better to wait till fall than launch something half-baked like Vista.

Vista is still screwed after seven years. Leopard will make the 64-bit transition, get a new GUI, UNIX 2003, ZFS, Time Machine, revamped OpenGL/CoreImage, CoreAnimation, new simplified Quicktime AP, resolution-independence and other great new features in a fraction of that time.

I notice M$ is closing down WinXP OEM licenses forcibly at year end, something Dell and HP don't seem to like. Vista has been a disaster for them. Also very few upgraders though we've seen a few non-technical FReepers buying Vista.

[Amadeo]

SOHO Organizer sucks? Is it worse than Entourage?

iCal and Mail never integrated and you could not trade/link messages, appointments, etc. with Outlook and other Windoze email clients and PIMs. Maybe Leopard versions will be better but will they be good enough?

Does anyone know of a really good Mac PIM that can work with Windoze and now Vista products?

[SunkenCiv]

Looks like this story was spot on.

[rimshot!]