Posted on 04/10/2007 10:35:33 PM PDT by grundle
On September 21, 2003 NASA deliberately directed its amazing, still-functioning Galileo spacecraft to make one final, 108,000 mph suicidal plunge into Jupiters vast atmosphere.
The intent of this unfortunate decision was to protect Europa, one of those Jovian moons.
Van der Worp claimed that, plunging into Jupiters deep and increasingly dense atmosphere, the on-board Galileo electrical power supply a set of 144 plutonium-238 fuel pellets... would ultimately implode; that the plutonium Galileo carried would ultimately collapse in upon itself under the enormous pressures of Jupiters overwhelming atmosphere
As the capsules continue to fall deeper through the primarily hydrogen atmosphere, the surrounding pressure/density continues to rise, to thousands of times Earths surface density and pressure. The capsules are now falling at a constant rate, approximately one mile per hour
At this ultra-slow terminal velocity, it takes the Galileo plutonium-238 capsules on the order of 700 hours a month! to fall to a depth inside Jupiter (~700 miles below the visible clouds) where the outside pressure of the surrounding liquid hydrogen literally crushes the plutonium capsules into a supercritical state
At this point, one of the capsules randomly implodes and initiates, via the resulting shockwave and intense neutron shower, a runaway nuclear chain reaction in all the other surviving capsules, now spread in a spherical falling cloud a few tens of miles across ~700 miles below Jupiters visible surface. The resulting cascade nuclear detonation of all the surviving capsules totals several tens of kilotons .
The deliberate destruction of Galileo to save Europa, and the sudden appearance of a mysterious dark splotch on Jupiter just one month later -- precisely time enough to get the entering plutonium down to a depth where it could catastrophically implode is truly a remarkable coincidence.
(Excerpt) Read more at enterprisemission.com ...
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Ah, yes. The mysterious dark splotch.
That had been troubling me for sometime.
(No, the OTHER mysterious dark splotch!)
LOL!
I don't care what you say, I'm stealing this quote!
(If it's possible I'll credit you, but it's definitely getting stolen.)
Is that Cydonia, TX or Cydonia, OH?
That would happen if it was acutally fissionable Pu-239 instead of Pu-238
Hoagland is nuts
Hoagland served as a "Curator of Astronomy & Space Science" [3] at the "Springfield Museum of Science
It’s been morphed with Photoshop to make her clown mouth even bigger than in real life. ;)
way cool! maybe this would ignite Jupiter and turn it into a second Sun!
Hoagland is a complete idiot.
I went rounds with him over this and he can’t see his errors. LOL
Why are you posting this pseudoscience crap?
1) Hoagland is NOT a scientist. He is a science FICTION writer, and not even a good one.
2) His “theories” are mostly full of conspiracy theories about NASA, Egyptian gods, the Masons, Illuminati and something he calls “hyperdimensional physics.
3) He makes people PAY to post on his forums. We used to host him at one of our sites until he started censoring people, among other things. He didn’t want people who were tearing his theories apart to be heard (including the administrators like me).
4) He attacks people who disagree with him, or he tries to discredit them by making them sound bad.
If you want to discuss Hoagland’s work, then here on FR is not the place. Go to the Anomalies Network http://www.anomalies.net and click on the forums. Anyone is welcomed there, and you can discuss conspiracy crap all you want, but be warned, *I* post there, and if you post something that is stupid, I’ll be gunnin’ for you with facts. LOL
Must be true.
Ha! He was on C2CAM a couple of weeks ago saying that the "excess" heat output from Jupiter and Saturn was from hyperdimensional holes, in particular, from that newly observed hexagonal storm. (and, of course, he predicted everything that will be discovered years ago. Just ask his good friend Arthur C. Clarke...)
The other really annoying thing that sticks in my mind was that somebody was allegedly going to make "Monuments of Mars" into a movie, and RCH & Co. were going to have a say in the project, so anybody interested working on/in it has to read the book, and submit their resume to some fax number, iirc.
Do you know how a Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator works or is made? Apparently you and the author do not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator
It’s a pretty complete entry.
About 2/3 of the way down the page is a brief comparison between an RTG and a fission pile:
“RTGs use a different process of heat generation from that used by nuclear power stations. Nuclear power stations generate power by a chain reaction in which the nuclear fission of an atom releases neutrons which cause other atoms to undergo fission. This allows the rapid reaction of large numbers of atoms, thereby producing large amounts of heat for electricity generation. However, if the reaction is not carefully controlled the number of atoms undergoing fission (and the heat production) can grow exponentially, very rapidly becoming hot enough to destroy the reactor.
Chain reactions do not occur inside RTGs, so such a nuclear meltdown is not possible. In fact, some RTGs are designed so that fission does not occur at all; rather, forms of radioactive decay which cannot trigger other radioactive decays are used instead. As a result, the fuel in an RTG is consumed much more slowly and much less power is produced.
There are no nuclear proliferation risks associated with plutonium-238 because it is unsuitable for making nuclear weapons. The major reason for this is that plutonium-238 undergoes spontaneous fission at a high rate and thus emits neutrons randomly, causing the chain reaction to start too early in the triggering process. This would cause a plutonium-238 bomb to “fizzle”, greatly reducing its reliability and power. Moreover, plutonium-238 is very hot; this would complicate the manufacturing process.”
It’s all about heat, not boom....
Well technically speaking, Pu-238 is not fissile. It is fissionable, but it requires a fast neutron with an energy on the order of something like 5 MeV (which obviously won’t occur in this case). This is also the case with other even nuclides in that area (which is why U-233 and U-235 are fissile but U-238 and Th-232 aren’t). Of course U-238 and Th-232 can be activated and converted into a fissile substance with neutron absorption and subsequent beta decay. The time period for those actions is several orders of magnitude longer than that of an ordinary fission reaction and the neutron source for it is still sort of fuzzy—not to mention how burnout would be prevented.
There are a lot of areas in science or engineering where you can make bogus claims and have them not be outright detected. You could make a skull and call it a missing link, you could say you have a new theory for the collapse of the WTC, you can claim to have cloned a human, etc. However, nuclear physics is not one of those areas. With the number of eyes and the amount of mathematical coherency in nuclear physics, I cannot imagine someone pulling a hoax without being caught very rapidly (probably in days). Hundreds of the greatest physicists who ever walked the Earth spent the last century beating this theory into existence, and one crazy kook isn’t going to prove them all wrong.
Is that nose Micheal Jackson’s?
I didn’t hear of this a few years ago. Interesting read
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Hey! They had a movie on this on the Sci-fi Channel last night called "Crimson Force"! Didn't know it was a docu-drama!
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