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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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Ahhhhh I’ve seen it... up until recently when all the actors and actresses have gone so whacko and movies so overtly political there is hardly a movie I did’t see...
Now you’re channeling “what J Howard would have wanted”? He made it very clear in that Christmas video.
More than anything, there was a company set up for her, Compagnie Victoire, into which all of her modeling earnings (such as the unbelievable $26 million quoted by media as her Guess?Jeans one-year revenue) and expenses and houses in CA and everything else would go.
She was too stupid to make use of it - and JHMII was very upset with her about it. She said she “didn’t want no damn company” unless she was the CEO. Well, JHMII knew what would happen if she were, but he let her put more shares in her name. Within months, she was in bankruptcy.
She testified in court that she was “so broke” that the electricity was shut off at her L.A. house and her NYC apartment. At the same time, her bank records showed she was cashing checks in the tens of thousands almost daily! She just couldn’t be bothered to pay for things like utilities.
Oh, except for cable TV. One of her cable TV monthly bills was $2,500+. She couldn’t even write out the check correctly because she couldn’t spell the numbers and got her “zeros” mixed up. (I’m wondering if the bill wasn’t really $25.80 or something.)
JHoward threw up his hands and said she was “unteachable.” After the way she acted towards him the last few months of his life (ignoring him) as he got sicker and sicker, he was getting very fed up with her and while he never intended to leave her anything more than the ranch, the homes, the jewelry, the cars, the company’s assets (CV), the tons of cash he gave her, and so forth - AND he saw that she could earn her own way - even if she couldn’t seem to maintain it - he was ready to cut her loose.
Night before last, I tried to find an obit for Eleanor Pierce Marshall Stevens, his first wife and the mother of Pierce and JHMIII, just to put some dates on my Case List - and you know what? I *think* she’s still alive at 102!
They had a big bash for her 100th BD in Dallas and she was still ballroom dancing, and winning awards, nearly every day! She was still on the board of the Dallas Opera for 2006-2007, so I’m kind of thinking she is still around! Her husband had Alzheimer’s and I haven’t found any notices for him either.
And although I’m certain she isn’t “laughing” as such, having lost her son, one could certainly say she could be the one who would have the “last laugh” in this saga.
Since Virgie’s attorney said she will be asking for Guardianship (rather than custody), perhaps the court, as Pinder has suggested, will grant her guardianship during the ‘transition period’, with full acknowledgement that Larry will be given sole custody thereafter? Seems to me if that happens she would be overseeing both HKS and LB’s transition ‘visits’...
I think that if that were to happen though, HKS would immediately fight for custody, throwing a huge curveball into Friday’s custody hearing.
“... up until recently when all the actors and actresses have gone so whacko and movies so overtly political there is hardly a movie I did’t see...”
Same here. Two or three movies a week at the theater have become an occasional movie at the theater with LOTS of DVD rental.
‘Pro’ Pinder on Greta:
Hearing on ownership of Horizons is scheduled for May 7th.
Hearing (soon-missed date) to find out who is ANS representative re: Horizons.
“I think that if that were to happen though, HKS would immediately fight for custody, throwing a huge curveball into Friday’s custody hearing.”
I agree. Those events would produce more of his favorite tactic, DELAY.
“Hearing (soon-missed date) to find out who is ANS representative re: Horizons.”
Do you know, would that representative also be rep’ing HKS since they took residence there together?
I’m sure, exceptions, can be found for everything..i’m just explaining how it’s ‘supposed’ to work in the ‘real world’ and does, in 99% of cases IMO, so while you, yourself, ‘know’ a bank that did otherwise, doesnt’ mean it’s necessarily widespread practice, to do so. IMHO the issue should be against the relative that misrepresented the situation to the bank, not the bank.
If the assets are less than the legal amount that mandates probate, (say all that exists is a 10K savings account), the bank would **normally** need at least the names of direct decendents and would disburse the funds according to share (spouse gets it all, or 4 decendant/siblings, 4 equal shares of $2,500, etc) If one immediate relative lied to the bank about eligible immediate relatives, it would be a case of that relative, not the bank, defrauded the other eligible relatives, since the bank did pay out all funds in the account in good faith based on the information they were provided.
In any case, a court-appointed executor, (which any survivior sibling/direct relative could request be appointed) would be very useful in an intestate situation where there are disgruntled/fueding siblings-relatives.
If someone was, as you said, a person whom {the bank officials (recognized having a) “long standing familiarity” with the survivor beneficiary doing business for the decendent}, ON THE SURFACE, it sounds to me that it was that ‘survivor beneficiary’ that been the one saddled by the rest of the family with the day-to-day care of that decedant over a ‘long standing’ period of time.
It probably wouldn’t surprise you just how often, one adult child takes care of their ailing parent for years, even decades, without any money or help from other adult siblings, only to see the those same siblings (and their children!) circle like vultures for ‘their share’ of the decedant’s estate, when they hadn’t lifted a finger to help in the day-to-day care of that decedant.
Every once in a while we hear of one sibling leaving another ‘caretaker’ sibling homeless by selling the decedant’s house out from under the caretaker sibling who gave up their lives and moved into that home to take care of that ailing parent, although I’m sure that is not what happened in the case you cite and it’s not meant to be speaking personally to your case you’re citing.
Bottom line is, the court system provides for appointment of court-supervised executors if there is a dispute on decedant’s wishes/distribution of assets in an intestate situation - everyone should use this valuable resource, IMHO
As I understood Pinder, HKS has put himself forward as the representative for ANS.
An inquest into the death of ANNA NICOLE SMITH's son DANIEL will reconvene next month (22May07) in the Bahamas after officials agreed to allow the tragic model's companion, HOWARD K. STERN, to appeal the jury selection in the case. During a brief hearing yesterday (12APR07), Stern asked that his attorneys be allowed to submit a questionnaire for the jury screening process. His legal team has argued that it is no longer possible to secure an impartial jury, due to the publicity surrounding the deaths of Anna Nicole and her son. Meanwhile, witnesses for the inquest have been announced and they will include the late Anna Nicole, who will be represented posthumously, and a nurse who claims she noticed a methadone pill on the bed where Daniel died. Stern has also been summoned, as has photographer Larry Birkhead, who was named the biological father of Anna Nicole's baby girl Dannielynn on Tuesday (10Apr07). Daniel Smith was 20 when he died from a lethal combination of Lexapro, Zoloft and methadone while visiting his mother and newborn sister in the Bahamas last September (07).
13/04/2007 03:27
that was cute how Pinder speculated that Virgie and Larry could both be living at the Horizons - Virgie as 'part' or 'full' 'guardian' - i bet HKS's ears turned bright red again as Pinder merrily reflected...do ya get the impression Stern isn't well liked ? lolol
But.. but.. but.. el perpetrator de son tort is the publicist for ANS and has been the main person MAKING the publicity!
if the checks were made out to a company, then the company would have an 'endorsement stamp' which is stamped on the back - no 'endorsing' signature, per se, required. (look on the back of your cancelled check for say, your utility bill, for an example of endorsement stamp) Just FYI
Yep. As Sac would say, DIRECTING events.
It’s not that big of a company, lol. I use stamps, too, but I still sign or initial my endorsement.
This was said to be a “forgery” so I don’t know how you could “forge” stamping a company name, unless you could prove ANS kept the company stamp locked up (sure!) or a forensics specialist could show that ANS always leaned more on the left side of the stamp, so there was more ink and HKS always leaned more on the right side of the stamp, so the ink was heavier on that side.
I believe the term “forgeries” means “handwritten signatures” in this case.
Oh, ugh - ET re-run is on now. I got chloral hydrate fumes off the TV when it was on earlier this evening. Wow, I’m sleeping a lot at odd times. Prolly cause of taxes.
Anyway, I couldn’t believe my ears on ET a day or so ago, maybe the day Larry was declared the daddy, there were all kinds of press crowding around Virgie and one of them stuck a mike in front of her and said “do you think you’ll be declared the grandmother now?”
LOL. Virgie looked at the idjut and said “I *am* the grandmother!” Then something like “that wasn’t in dispute!” as she was walking off.
Couldn’t believe how dumb some media people can be. S’pose they thought she is Larry’s mom? *sigh*
yes, i agree - IIRC, it's specifically the checks that were sent to Malibu from the Bahamas that they are investigating..If Anna never gave stern, poa, that speaks volumes to me. please correct me if I'm wrong.
some people never cease to amaze me lolol
” Could Anna have been purchasing the house as HotSmoochieLips, thus giving Howard some sort of claim to it in her death? “
That’s definitely an interesting question. I’ll bet those utilities will be shut off, the minute DL leaves with Larry. I truly believe the Thompson’s/Shelley’s just wanted to help Anna out and look at what it might cost them. Talk about an expensive friendship!
I’m hoping they get their house back soon and don’t have to wait for the will to be probated. That would be a horrible outrage.
Well, to Santa Monica, where HKS’s apartment is still maintained, according to what he said in Seidlin’s court.
I thought it was interesting, considering he says now that he is staying in The Bahamas to be with the graves of Anna and Daniel.
It’s just one more way he tries to murk things up - he’ll lie about his “legal residence” any way he can - whatever is to his benefit. Same thing Anna did - TX or CA? Depends on which court she’s in.
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