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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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I think you are correct. After reading the testimony in some of the trials prior to the Supreme Court Hearing, I'm not sure ANS' attorneys will prevail. There's also the proof that HKS stole documents from a Texas Courtroom, and I wonder if the Texas judge notified the California Courts. After seeing how deceitful, mean-sprited, and manipulative ANS and HKS have been, I wouldn't believe either one of them. They conspired to get what they wanted whether it was legal or not. HKS committed perjury in Florida when he said, 'She was the mother of my baby'....DL was not his baby and he knew it. If they would stoop so low as to "steal" another man's baby, then what would stop them from perpetrating a fraud on the courts in order to get money - which seems to be what they were always after!
fyi HKS testified that he did NOT have signatory power on her checking accounts or POA - he said on the witness stand that he signed checks when ANS “instructed” him to and it was pretty clear he was forgering her name - anybody else remember?
THANK YOU Liz!! That is what I was trying to remember last night and wishing I had a transcript. When HKS testified to that - I thought surely someone was going to immediately follow up on that but..........crickets
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Opri is finally getting to ask questions!!!!!!
Did Anna keep a computer? Yes. Did she maintain a password for her computer? Yes. Did she maintain checking accounts where you were a signatory to those accounts? No.
Judge - objection overuled.
I was an agent for services processed for her corporation....yes Stern signed her name upon her instructions to checks - Vickie Marshall - what were her other names? Barf - these things have been stolen by Mr. Ford......Stern doesn’t have control any of this. Opri says she is pointing to my table that is inflammatory.....
Allow her to ask the question.
What were all the names ANS used: Anna Nicole Smith, Vicki Marshall, Vickie Hogan, Vickie Smith, Drs prescribed things to her in diff names - Michelle Chase, Susie Wong.....Mrs. Flintstone, Norma Jean.
In LA, Anna didn’t drive - so I picked up prescriptions for her.
Did you have a Debit card tied to ANS account? Stern - yes but she never had it activated.
11,813 posted on 02/21/2007 2:28:15 PM PST by Freedom’sWorthIt
(credit where credit’s due - thanks Freedom’sWorthIt)
could it be, that Stern's next step is to claim his 'marriage' is valid, therefore he has benefits of her estate, as a 'husband' now that 'father' is out the window ??
“Surely LB understands this is just strategy.”
He probably has felt so vulnerable that he’s less likely to look at the situation from ‘outside the box’. Kind of a ‘you are with me or with the terrorists’ situation.
HKS will have to be dealt with, once and for all, but I don’t know how the Bahamian courts could have jurisdiction over his behavior in the U.S.
I coulda sworn Kimmie made a statement that Anna’s will was in ‘2000’
Ah bless you my child. Both of you.
What I was curious about is why Opri did not pursue that check signing............unless they are saving it for future proceedings....as in criminal.
May God richly bless your son for his service - thank him for my family and thank YOU for raising such a man.
You are assuming the bank dealing with HKS followed all the rules.
I have known a major name bank here in the US in a major city to have “bent” the rules such that a surviving sibling, with survivor beneficiary status who “lost” the will and trust, was able to claim intestacy and therefore circumvent all of that. Furthermore, in that very case, a death certificate was not available, the bank accepted a mortuary statement that the person was in their hands. This was b/c of the bank officials “long standing familiarity” with the survivor beneficiary doing business for the decendent.
Point being - do we really know that ANS’s bank exerted all those checks and balances? Certainly HKS found MD’s and ME’s to circumvent their standard procedures and ethics . . .why not a bank?
lord i'd hope not lol it was just strange to me both kentucky boys and within 6 months of each other - no wonder Ashley was on edge - was the stalker a stalker or a reporter pretending to be a cop? do you know?
I have very little info on birkhead's resume - stint at Wall street Journal? (year unk) stint at USA Today, (1999) , stint as 'celebrity photographer'...
More than just check signing - if he is adept at forging her signature, he is probably endorsing checks made out to her or her companies. Banks don’t check endorsement signatures as much as people think they do, even in this electronic age.
I’ve had friends write Mickey Mouse and all kinds of names on the endorsement space, just to see if someone else could take their checks and do it. They go right through, even without endorsements, sometimes!
I’m thinking that those items that were sold through ANS Interactive could’ve been processed by that CMG guy in Beverly Hills - or however they do it - then proceeds sent as a lump sum check to “Vickie Marshall” or “Vickie Smith” whoever - at Horizons in Nassau. Then HKS just endorses them and somehow makes them come out as cash “showing up in Santa Monica” - like paying his rent perhaps?
“HKS must be FURIOUS that Birkhead is going to sell his pictures of he and the baby - step 1 of DL getting some real money”
This will be the first thing in which LB has 100% control regarding DL. I will go on record as willing to buy whatever publication purchases the photo.
If you want to see a real tear-jerker, try ‘Madame X’ with Lana Turner.
The legal battle of ANS and the Marshalls is quite complicated.
In the original probate case in Texas ANS attorneys tried to attack the will and trust accusing that Pierce Marshall and the attorneys he controled deliberately schemed to deprive ANS of what J. Howard intended for her to have.
HKS’s main job during this time was to fetch ANS drinks, carry her purse and steal documents. He was decidedly unhelpful at having her dressed properly or prepped on her testimony. She was not helpful to her case at all...
The Probate ruled against ANS and ordered her to pay a boatload of money to Pierce Marshall!
Meanwhile, ANS had been sued by a housekeeper and lost and she filed bankruptcy in California and listed the debt she now owed Pierce Marshall. Well... Pierce Marshall trotted his lawyers over to California to try and block her ability to get out of paying him! It was at this point ANS argued that she shouldn’t owe him anything in the first place because she had been truthful and he had interfered with her husband’s desire to give her a gift WHILE ALIVE.
It was at this point that the argument shifted from probate and wills and trusts to tort and ANS got a new attorney. This attorney used discovery and was able to produce a lot of evidence and witnesses that supported ANS’s claim that her husband wanted her to be given significant part of his assets (the amount is going to be argued as she has been awarded from zero to a 500 mil.) Documents and evidence were produced through discovery that showed that Pierce and his attorneys had been pretty clever and sneaky at blocking any hope of the catchall trust or something like it to provide for ANS financially.
The California Bankruptcy court ruled against Pierce and awarded ANS 500 mil. Pierce appealed and the District Court and lost again with a reduced award of 88 mil. Pierce appealed again and this time the 9th District said that the Bankruptcy and District court never had jurisdiction and said that the Texas Probate Court was the proper venue.
Now... the Supreme Court Disagreed and we are back to California Federal Court who now has to determine the merits of ANS’s original argument as to whether or not Pierce interfered with J. Howard’s intent that she be given a gift during his lifetime.
The Question before the supreme court had to do with jurisdiction and when a Federal court can get involved in a probate case. As has been pointed out the Federal government would have liked a broad intrepretation of when the feds can step in but the Supreme Court didn’t open the door very wide. However, in ANS’s case it was the tortious interference and overreaching by Pierce Marshall that got her the favorable ruling.
There are other complicated legal arguments that will be argued and of course, now there is the long lost tape that we have all seen with J. Howard riding around on the 4 wheeler with ANS. In that tape J. Howard is encouraged to say that he wants ANS to have half of everything ...but he doesn’t. He seems to say that he wants her to have everything he has given her and the ranch (which Pierce had already put into an irrevocable trust and J. Howard no longer had control of).
It doesn’t kill ANS’s claims but it doesn’t exactly help either... how much it will impact the case is hard to say.
What is clear is that Pierce and his attorney were not on the up and up and did work diligently to make sure ANS got nothing. That is not what J. Howard would have wanted...he was very, very generous with his woman and had a long history of lavishing cash, gifts and insuring their future through setting them up financially long term.
I have my hubby’s Power of Attorney because he is out of the country so much.....there is nothing I cannot do with his name. :o) Trusting isn’t he? I wonder if HKS had POA of ANS.
it was reported that Mrs. Gibson took Anna's jewelry box, gowns and baby items; (current whereabouts unknown).
Earlier in the day, Pinder said Bahamian Immigration Minister Shane Gibson's mother was permitted into the waterfront home late Friday to remove some of Smith's personal effects, including clothes and jewelry. The government official was a friend of the late reality TV star. And on Friday, a pickup carried a crib and an infant's car seat from the mansion to Gibson's house in the middle-class Marathon area. Later, a baby could be heard crying inside the house.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,21207083-5006301,00.html
that pretty much sums up Anna and Stern in one sentence, I'd say very 'pithy' lolol
Great photo.
It’s sad to think the baby will now have to live without her mother. But the Lord is able to provide this child with lots of love and care through her daddy and other family and friends.
Sad too that Anna’s life became so messed up. Maybe if she’d just stayed in Texas.....Hollywood can be very destructive for some.
Yup - and HKS has tried to put it off on Ford as being stolen - when *he* (HKS) was the one who phoned home (just like “ET,” lol) and told Gerlene to take the jewels and the baby things and the baby (I’m just guessing at the order, there, lol) to her own house.
When “ET,” the show, alludes to HKS and Dannielynn having to be in a “secure safehouse” and all that boogity-boogity stuff, that’s Gerlene’s house they’re talking about.
And BTW, to whoever was saying Larry should take Gerlene with him to KY or CA - she is kind of a legend in The Bahamas, like her ex-hubby - she has raised 12 children, according to the latest ET puffer. First we heard 6, then 7, now 12. I guess Dannielynn is either #12 or #13.
She’s a nice lady, so I’m not disparaging her in any way - it’s just that she’s so nice, she’s another who has fallen under the spell of the grifters and finds herself an accessory.
Anyway, she’s not going to be leaving The Bahamas, I don’t believe.
Maybe “executor consort,” instead, lol.
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