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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
Thread Number 3
the past week, i’ve been reviewing the first (original) thread...jumped to thread two and eeek closed so landed here, working on a combined thread count of about 50K posts !! what an adventure lol
anyway, some things I’ve found interesting:
1. claim that Anna didn’t “want” to go to the hospital because of ‘media’ attention:
a. Anna was in hospital in LA for detox 2 weeks Apr? 06? paparazzi didn’t know
b. Anna was in hospital for ‘stomach ache’ and ‘migraine’ on Sept 4?5? paparazzi didn’t know (once in hospital kept for two days until Dannielynn’s birth)
c. Anna removed from hospital Sep 10-(fully sedated) paparazzi didn’t know
d. Anna was in hospital for ‘pain in (her) side’ Oct 31 - diagnosed with pneumonia/collapsed lung paparazzi didn’t know/report until 2 days later
so.....Anna apparently didn’t have an issue with going to a LA hospital for detox, or a Bahamas hospital (private hospital) for a ‘migraine’ or a ‘pain in (her) side’ and no problems taking baby to doctor appointments...therefore, it doesn’t follow, that all of a sudden, Anna would not, want to go to that same private Bahama hospital for a fever! especially when one considers that, at the time of the 105 temp (first one) and the ice bath (first one) occurred at the home in the Bahamas, according to the newest version by Eroshevich; instead she was transported to Florida to be held for four days in a hotel room with no logical or apparent purpose for her presence.
2. Anna ‘cried for’ her mom, before/after birth of daughter, and after Daniel died (mommy dearest video)..Called her mom after Daniel died...call ended with ‘click’ and when mom tried to call back got ‘disconnected’ number - no way for mom to reach Anna - I will bet five cents, Anna didn’t know, that the number had been changed and mom couldn’t get thru - was led to believe mom didn’t even care enough to call back?? just went on tv instead?....Was Anna teleconferencing with Jackie/Mom and got discovered? Was Anna putting two and two together and realizing that Stern was setting her up for the fall at the inquest? ..Anna’s cell phone was in the closet according to Stern and stolen along with papers - why would a cellphone be in the closet? hidden? turned off?
3. P & P gaydads, only known Anna ‘5 years’, Moe, less, 2-3 years, Gibsons 5 months, Bridgette (less than 5 months?) but all claim they are ‘the only family’ Anna had - how does 5 years or less than 6 months even qualify as even being closely acquainted??? preposterous!!!
4. Mrs Gibson interview - claims that Anna called her ‘momma’; Bridg-eeete interview - claims that Anna called her ‘momma’ - who’s trying to upstage whom? Why would either, having only known Anna for less than 6 months, accept a grown woman calling them ‘momma’? Why would either, not show an ounce of respect for Virgie and just keep it to themselves? but they brag about it? low-class if you asked me
5. Stern - referring to Virgie as ‘that woman - that WOMAN!” - wouldn’t a significant other try to at least be neutral in a conflict between daughter/mom? try to repair relationship especially with baby coming? especially knowing Daniel kept in constant contact with grandma? or does his demeanor indicate he was, instead, promoting animosity? creating animosity? ‘court order to touch child’ ?? Does stern have a problem with women in general? why no ‘girl’ friends for Anna? why only ‘gay’ friends for Anna???? with Anna expressing she wanted to be friends with Britney doesn’t seem only gay friends was Anna’s choice ....
6. Anna arrived Horizons approx Jul 15th, clean except for methadone pills according to Shelleys - how does Stern’s arrival coincide with Aug 2 and Aug 26th injectible fed-x meds? how does Eroshovich’s arrival coincide with drug use escallating? They both claim to have stayed with Anna prior to birth - which was only 6 weeks from Anna’s arrival date, and after birth. Was Anna temporarily successful in getting out of Sterns/Eroshevich’s clutches, only to be double-teamed with Stern, Eroshevich, and assorted gay couples/men and ‘bodyguards’?
7. Clown video - Anna told Shelleys she wanted a playday with Riley - just her and Riley - nobody else - was Stern so upset Anna was shutting him out of her life, that in revenge, he got her toasted so she wouldn’t be able to enjoy the one-on-one playdate? Don’t want (stern) around, then won’t play with the little girl, either? Was Shelleys aware Stern was in the house when they dropped of Riley or was Anna alone at the time? (i don’t think they knew stern was there)
8. Anna (posts in NE column?) to Britney - wanted to be ‘friends’ - was britney being set up as replacement for Anna by Stern? Anna’s preggy pictures had no takers - not a commodity anymore - 40yo is 40yo, even with oct/nov ‘derm procedure’(dr. levy) (suspect new non-invasive deep heat facelift - would explain over-all swollen face in Nov mommy dearest video and huge facial diff between birth photos and mommy dearest interview) - planned to stable her in dubai? while working Britney? now THAT’s a scary thought ! and maybe a close call for britney
9. Was Anna buried on top of Daniel? why? to prevent Daniel from being exumed? with two adjoining plots why not side-by-side? then in future, Stern on top of Anna and Dannielynn on top of Daniel (of course, that would only happen if Dannielynn ended up an old maid with no hubby or children of her own to be buried next to) h
10. Why was Moe acting as ‘bodyguard’ for Stern in the Bahamas last week? i thought he was Anna’s bodyguard? Why was Moe at the hardrock March 30th? trying to get noticed? waiting for the payday? (western union at casino?) How does a working paramedic get so many days off at the drop of a hat? And where did he buy that tacky tacky tacky suit?
ok, i’ll shut up for a while now lol
“Erosovich was familiar to, and had a close enough relationship with the parents, to have their phone number on her phone or within her immediate proximity.”
So true...good connect.
“why does howie surround himself with gay, and/or bi, men ?”
Because, IMO of course ;) he is.
“I heard on the news tonight that the choloral hydrate is tasteless and that is why it is called the date rape....so if it was found in Daniels system he could easily
picked up a cup at the hospital and drank Anna’s doseage...????? Just wondering if someone will ask Howard why he needed so many drugs?”
OK...I heard this last night too...now...doesn’t that directly contradict Perper’s statement about CH tasting horrible and IIRC he even used the taste as an excuse for something...anybody recall?
Could that have happened if Anna had had some kind of seizure? KE had been prescribing an anti-seizure med that at some point she abruptly STOPPED giving to Anna. The drug was not found in the autopsy.
**All I’m doing is putting hydrocortisone cream on it when the itching is unbearable**
IMHO, if it’s a fungus, it wouldn’t hurt to try Lamisil AT (not the AF) sure, it’s for atheletes’feet, but it also works for fungus on body - I know a diabetic that gets funguses in wierd places - top of legs, lower legs back neck hands etc. Lamisil AT’s a bit pricy at around 15 bucks a tube but if it fixes the problem it’s worth it
FWIW, you might have your doc check you for MRSA - staph infection - a lot of time staph outbreak (tiny intensely itchy pustules almost like poison ivy pustules) will allow fungal component to breed when pustules weep.
Best wishes !
OK, maybe this is old news, but YES HE DID!!! HERE IT IS:
“People who want to kill themselves usually take large amounts of drugs, Perper said. The amount of the sleeping drug in Smith’s body was not necessarily lethal by itself. “In this case, there was still a lot of chloral hydrate left in the bottle,” and all the other drugs in her body were at “therapeutic” levels, Perper said.
As for homicide, chloral hydrate has an awful taste. “You cannot disguise it or slip it into a drink,” Perper said, and there were no signs on her body of “forced feeding.”
You know,...I couldn’t figure out how something that tasted so bad could be ‘slipped’ into someone’s drink as a date rape drug? Evidence to me, again, that IMO, Perper is doing nothing but repeating what KE told him. And how the heck does he know how many other bottles of CH there might have been used PRIOR to the bottle left.
I hope to God, that if Daniel accidentally drank ANS’s CH cocktail, that the Bahamian ME found it in his system. If not, Vergie ought to DEMAND that his body be exhumed and tests made if possible.
Re: #1...I have also heard it explained that she didn’t want to go back to any hospital because of the trauma of being in the hospital when Daniel died. But Team Stern is always coming up with a new excuse for anything and everything.
Q: This is something new to me....where did you read that the 105 fever and Ice Bath took place in the Bahamas?
Look up chloral hydrate and you’ll find several articles that it can be disguised by adding it to tea. I beleive it also said that it comes “orange flavored”.
Remember, Chloral Hydrate is one of those drugs that is rarely tested for these days. Wonder if they saved samples from Danny or everything has been destroyed.
“Look up chloral hydrate and you’ll find several articles that it can be disguised by adding it to tea. I beleive it also said that it comes “orange flavored”.”
Except that the woman (doc I think) interviewed on Guifoyle last night said the CH is tasteless...why the need to disguise it at all? And if she’s right, then Perper lied, AND there is a possibility that Daniel may have drank what HKS prepared for Anna and not even known it.
Did Moe ACTUALLY hear her say she didn't want to go to the hospital or did he just "parrot" what Howard and KE said.
If someone is so drugged or "out of their mind", do they really have the ability to make a decision.
She begged KE not to leave, too. So, it's not like they "ALWAYS" followed Anna's wishes.
That stuck out like a sore thumb because it equates "Sleepy" with "death".
I'd say that Howard told him to take some tea and that what Daniel REALLY said was that he was suddenly "dizzy".
O also think that when Howard went out for the second time that night or even took a walk down the hall to ask the night nurse, he took something OUT of the hospital.
We've been carefully fed photos of the yellow cups....but we don't know if they've been switched or if there were more...
Remember...ILLUSIONS.
"I shudder to think of what the world will be like for future generations. Its as though the world has turned up side down - good is bad - bad is good. ;( ;("
So do I.
If by chance, one sees Mr. Gore today, tell him my heat is constantly going on....because it’s freezing today and about 15 degrees below norm, that there’s a pile of FROZEN eggs in the back yard and the Easter Bunny took off for Florida.
The bottle was partially used. They forced her each time?? Perper makes noooooo sense.
What struck me is that Howard went right for the carotic artery. Just sooooo amazing that a non-doctor would do that instead of IMMEDIATELY calling for help.
I'm thinking he made enough noise to wake Anna or even nudged her awake and then went to the john.
Remember, she had a Memory Loss of the event and was given a sedative and whisked out of the hospital before the media got wind. Wonder if they took the baby at that time. Who released them?? Is their a Doctor Gibson in the house?
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