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Stay-at-home moms called Nazis
UPI ^ | 4/2/07 | Staff

Posted on 04/03/2007 7:13:37 AM PDT by Millee

Feminists in Germany say a celebrity author who advocates that women stay at home to raise families is evoking memories of World War II Nazis.

Former television news host Eva Herman, 47, wrote a book filled with letters from women who now wish they had chosen to raise their own families instead of working. Herman also says mothers should be paid $22,000 to $27,500 as "family managers," a Times of London correspondent reported from Berlin.

However, Alice Schwarzer, a feminist campaigner and magazine editor evoked memories of the Nazi era, when women who had more than three children were awarded a medal called the Mother's Cross.

In response, Herman filled in more of the history of wartime motherhood.

"During (that) era mothers were separated from their children. It is absurd to make that link," she said.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: feminist; godwinslaw; naziinsult; starkravingsocialist
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To: peekingfromabox

But why not a major “tax credit” on the condition that you’re married?

Really, it isn’t quite fair. Housewives (and I will use that unPC term) often do alot of work and it’s very tedious and repetitive, day in day out, day and night, never ending.

Why shouldn’t they be given credit for it? Especially in this tax-ridden world, where 1 person working seems not enough.

But then, I’d be most happy if we just got rid of income tax. Would solve alot of problems.


21 posted on 04/03/2007 8:18:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
"Really, it isn’t quite fair. Housewives (and I will use that unPC term) often do alot of work and it’s very tedious and repetitive, day in day out, day and night, never ending. Why shouldn’t they be given credit for it?"

I'll give you credit for it. But your real credit is being stored for you up in Heaven, because you're doing God's will. I don't believe that being a parent was ever supposed to come with a financial benefit. But one of the greatest benefits of having children is that you get to instill in them the goodness that is in you, and then watch them spread it around to others. You'll also have somebody to help you when you're old and no longer able to care for yourself as before. Talk about a "retirement strategy", having children is best investment ever in that category. Children are blessings, and those blessings outweigh any amount of money.

22 posted on 04/03/2007 8:27:04 AM PDT by peekingfromabox
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Housewives (and I will use that unPC term) often do alot of work and it’s very tedious and repetitive, day in day out, day and night, never ending. Why shouldn’t they be given credit for it?

Your description, and the fact that you use the pronoun "they," suggests that you're not a housewife, mother, domestic goddess (fill in other synonyms, as time permits). I am, and I assure you that my present career is not in the slightest bit tedious and repetitive, compared to my previous occupation, "State and Municipal Premium Tax and Regulatory Compliance Specialist."

It's true that the hours aren't as regular ... but it's also true that I can put my subcontractors to bed at my discretion. And I never have to speak to anyone at the California Department of Revenue. Ever.

23 posted on 04/03/2007 8:38:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Mike Bates
doesn't he know he's messin' it up for the rest of us? :)

Sorry 'bout that.

My point was that a full-time housewife/mother is "paid," effectively, half her husband's salary, or more, depending on who writes the checks for the mortgage, utilities, car payments, insurance, tuition, groceries, clothing, vet bill, blahblahblah.

There should be no need for another source of income. I'd love to see everyone's taxes reduced, too, irrespective of marital or parental status, but that's a different thread :-).

24 posted on 04/03/2007 8:43:10 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Tax-chick

No offense meant.

But I do experience some of the regular housewife chores. Not a mom, yet, but that doesn’t mean I don’t already spend time washing dishes, clothes, cleaning, and all that. To me, it’s tedious, never-ending. And I don’t do that much of it! (But I make up for it with a very special allergic dog.)

Wow, you can’t win - call it “easy” work, and they jump on you. Call it “hard” work, and they jump on you! :-\


25 posted on 04/03/2007 9:01:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Tax-chick

But the FAMILY as a WHOLE isn’t getting all it’s due. YOU may get “half” (whatever) of HIS pay, but the whole household “pay” hasn’t gone up despite another adult and despite adding other children.

If he keeps getting paid $50k a year, that’s $50k/person for him single. Then, that’s $25k/person when he’s married. Then child 1, $17k/person (ignoring what cost the child is vs. adult). Child 2, now it’s just $12k/person.

Would be nice if you could BOLSTER that income rather than ration it out more and more.


26 posted on 04/03/2007 9:05:33 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Thrownatbirth

And you thought she was just playing cards with the girls at night.


28 posted on 04/03/2007 9:08:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

It would be nice, but it would also allow the government to stick it’s fat fingers into my tidy little home, which just isn’t worth any amount of money.


29 posted on 04/03/2007 9:22:16 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Wake me up when everyone is ready to self-identify as "earthling.")
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Wow, you can’t win - call it “easy” work, and they jump on you. Call it “hard” work, and they jump on you! :-\

LOL - sorry about that.

Re your other post, I disagree. Census data indicates that married men with wives at home have higher salaries, by a significant percentage, than men with the same education/experience who are unmarried or have wives with jobs. The precise mechanism isn't known, but clearly the market is independently recognizing the economic contribution of the non-employed spouse.

The key words there are "market" and "independently." The big problem with any proposal to directly compensate stay-at-home spouses is (as my original post mentioned) where the money comes from. Sure, I'd like more money ... although I don't believe it would make us happier ... but we already have way too much of people's being forced at gunpoint to subsidize values they don't perceive.

30 posted on 04/03/2007 9:24:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Tax-chick; LongElegantLegs

Early on I stated it would be nice (maybe) to get a TAX BREAK.

What do you think of that? I think you all keep writing as if we’re still talking about “direct compensation” on top of hubby’s salary. I’m saying let the husband/father keep more of his money.


31 posted on 04/03/2007 12:40:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I don’t think tax breaks should be directed to particular classes of taxpayers. I support lower taxes for everyone.

It’s a high-concept philosophical point, but I believe that a main part of the problem in our societies is that people are conditioned to think that everything should be passed through the government. This leads, of course, to competing interest groups’ seeking to manipulate the system to their perceived benefit, and leads to a society of clients, rather than citizens.


32 posted on 04/03/2007 1:41:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Tax-chick

Of course you’re basically correct.

Of course, my belief is there should be no income tax, as the Founders intended. It really is unconstitutional. And alot of problems (big or small) we have today can be traced to its existence.


33 posted on 04/03/2007 7:11:30 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

We do agree.


34 posted on 04/03/2007 7:22:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("His mother said to the servants, 'Do whatever He tells you.' ")
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To: Millee
In response, Herman filled in more of the history of wartime motherhood.

"During (that) era mothers were separated from their children. It is absurd to make that link," she said.

Exactly. Freaking idiots.

35 posted on 04/03/2007 7:34:22 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: Tax-chick
As my son once said when he was about four years old:

"Oh, I get it. Daddy goes to work and buys money and then Mommy takes care of it in her purse."

Out of the mouths of babes...

Cheers!

36 posted on 04/03/2007 7:52:30 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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