Mac OS X 10.5 delayed to ensure Vista compatibility?

Any truth to this, you think?

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How reliable are these sources?

Offhand, I'd say the idea is not likely. Few people have Vista yet, and I don't see sales catching on.

Why would Apple delay 10.5.0 for that, anyway? If BootCamp is ready for release, release it with the new OS, and say that Vista compatibility will come with the release of 10.5.1. No big deal, Apple releases new functionality with incremental updates all the time.

Apple's line thus far is that aside from releasing its dual boot application, it will leave the Mac OS/Windows compatiblity issue to third parties. If this rumor is true, it represents a remarkable shift in priorites, from "yeah, we tossed Boot Camp together for the die hards, whatever" to "Vista compatiblity is so important we won't ship Leopard without it".

Frankly, I never bought Apple's disinterest in running Windows native. Steve Jobs is famous for expressing disinterest in a project while feverishly at work on it (e.g., iPhone, Intel Macs).

If this rumor is true, I would not at all be surprised to learn that Leopard runs all flavors of Windows native at full speed on the Mac OS desktop, with all of the Mac trimmings. This would explain why Apple has locked all developers out of the secret features loop: it will pee in a lot of cereal bowls! (And also why Jobs did not outline such features last autumn when Microsoft could still tweak code to lock the Mac OS out.)

Of course, Vista could just be a convenient excuse to cover a schedule slip on another front...

BTW, this would also explain Microsoft's decision to forbid using Vista in such a mode. They may have got wind of what is coming.

It's been debunked by one source who called Apple:
http://weblogs.jupiterresearch.com/analysts/gartenberg/archives/2007/03/is_leopard_dela.html

>It's been debunked by one source who called Apple

Remember their switch
to Intel? Apple denied
it till it was done . . .

That is Apple's way.
It was Job's way with NeXT, too.
He was denying

NeXT would drop hardware
up until the announcment
they'd just do software . . .

Apple's line thus far is that aside from releasing its dual boot application, it will leave the Mac OS/Windows compatiblity issue to third parties. If this rumor is true, it represents a remarkable shift in priorites, from "yeah, we tossed Boot Camp together for the die hards, whatever" to "Vista compatiblity is so important we won't ship Leopard without it"

Remember the steps
of multi-tasking coming
to the Macintosh?

First Hertzfeld whipped up
Switcher. Then Apple built in
OS task switching . . .

No truth whatsoever... we are in the 3 week FUD season leading up to a major Apple event at the Broadcasters convention... so, out comes the FUD. The rumor site that started this so far has a Zero and twelve record for its predictions... Zero right.

Boot Camp modification to run Vista is a trivial change... it is already being done by individuals.

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How reliable are these sources?

About as reliable as the Global Warming crowd...

About as reliable as the Global Warming crowd...

The Leopard has a fever!

>The rumor site that started this so far has a Zero and twelve record for its predictions...

The source that I found
is an Asian magazine,
not a "site" at all . . .

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A Taiwanese electronics publication reported Friday that Apple will significantly delay the launch of its forthcoming "Leopard" operating system to ensure that Macintosh PCs that run the software are also capable of running Microsoft's new Windows Vista operating system.

The publication, DigiTimes Systems, cited unnamed sources in reporting that Apple will push back the launch of Mac OS X 10.5 to September in order to finish work on a Leopard version of its Boot Camp technology that is Windows Vista compatible.

Boot Camp is an Apple utility that enables Mac users to launch and run Microsoft operating systems, enhancing the Mac's flexibility. Leopard was originally slated to launch in April.

Apple officials couldn't immediately be reached for comment, and the report couldn't be immediately verified by InformationWeek.

A number of major software makers are scrambling to update their products to ensure Windows Vista compatibility.

Adobe Systems, for instance, has decided not to release Windows Vista updates for current versions of its Photoshop, InDesign, and Dreamweaver products. Instead, Adobe will devote most of its developer time to ensuring that new versions of the products scheduled to ship this spring are Windows Vista friendly, according to a company spokesman.

Similarly, a spokesman for IBM said the company has placed Vista certification efforts for its current Lotus Notes products on the back burner to ensure that the forthcoming Lotus Notes 8 Suite is fully compatible with Windows Vista. "It's a question of how we can best allocate our development resources," said the spokesman.

Information Week, March 23, 2007 10:50 AM

I doubt it. The only reason they'd hold up the release is if there are problems with it, not to add features.

And I doubt if there are any problems with it to hold it up for six months.

The Leopard has a fever!

This could actually be a purchasing decision for some, who want to dual boot verses run the Parallels virtual machine (not easy to do both). And wanting to avoid complaints from new customers that that had to buy Parallels to actually run the latest Windows, it's possible this issue is causing a delay in Leopard's release, although I doubt it would be the primary reason in any possible delay, just one of the possible reasons. In the end Apple may leave you guessing a lot, but that is better than giving a date but never meeting it like Microsoft, and if this rumor is true it looks like Apple is just looking out for their customers.

The source that I found is an Asian magazine, not a "site" at all . . .

It's been floating around and being picked up by various blogs and web based magazines for almost a week. Digitimes.com. a website, has been identified as the primary source.

Digitimes.com’s Poor Apple Rumor Accuracy

The latest Digitimes.com rumor has hit the Mac web again. The claim this time is that Apple is delaying Mac OS X Leopard until October 2007.
For whatever reason, Digitimes seems to draw the attention of the mainstream Mac web as well as other random bloggers. I’m not sure why there seems to be a sense of authority behind their rumors, but Gizmodo even claimed today that they were “usually pretty spot-on about Apple rumors.”
I can tell you right now that this is not the case. At MacRumors.com, we’ve even tried to stop linking to their stories due to their historical inaccuracy, in an attempt to prevent their spread. The problem with this strategy is two-fold.
1) Sites that have larger viewership than ours have started publishing these reports, so any attempt to suppress these rumors is relatively futile.
2) Readers continue to submit the rumor and do want to discuss it in our forums.
As a result, we’ve continued to publish these rumors — mostly on Page 2, with heavy disclaimers about Digitimes’ accuracy.
I thought I’d take some time and recap their rumor history again for those keeping track. Here are Digitimes rumors reported on MacRumors over the past 5 years along with their outcomes:
15″ MacBook in 2nd Quarter 2007 (2007) - Unknown
LED-Lacklit Apple Laptops (2007) - Possible
Apple Notebook with Robson Caching (2006) - Possible
AMD Apple Laptop (2006) - Wrong
Wireless iPods (2006) - Wrong
Apple 17″ Widescreen LCD (2006) - Wrong
2GB and 4GB iPod Shuffles (2005) - Partially True - 2GB and 4GB Nanos
Apple Widescreen iBook (2005) - Wrong
PowerBook G5 and iBook G5 (2005) - Wrong
Intel Mac Mini, iBook, iMac due June 6 2006 (2005) - Wrong
15.4″ Powerbook (2003) - Wrong
Wireless Apple Tablet (2003) - Wrong
Termination of 17″ iMac (2003) - Wrong
19″ iMacs (2002) - Wrong
Here are the stats:
14 rumors total. 1 True. 10 Wrong. 2 Possible. 1 Unknown.
I’ll leave it to the reader to decide how likely it is that this latest rumor will come true.
23 March 2007
Source, Arnold Kim, founder and Editor of MacRumors.com.

(not easy to do both).

Actually, it is now easy to use the Boot Camp partition as a Parallels boot file... thus doing both.

Actually, it is now easy to use the Boot Camp partition as a Parallels boot file... thus doing both.

Great, thanks for the update. Does the new VMware for OSX offer that as well?

Does the new VMware for OSX offer that as well?

I don't know...