Posted on 03/16/2007 10:38:22 AM PDT by MindBender26
March 16, 2007 The woman who accused three members of the Duke University men's lacrosse team of sexual assault is not being forthcoming with special prosecutors, law enforcement sources close to the case tell ABC News.
The accuser has met at least twice with prosecutors from the North Carolina attorney general's office, which took over the case from Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong in January.
In those interviews, she gave incomplete answers when asked about the alleged assault and the events surrounding it, according to sources.
The same sources added that Kim Roberts, the second dancer who attended the March 2006 party, had also refused to speak with investigators and had said she would do so only if subpoenaed. Roberts has spoken to the media about the case, including doing an interview with ABC News' "Good Morning America."
Although neither woman has been forthcoming up to this point, the sources stressed that this could change and that the accuser might still fully participate with investigators.
In the coming weeks prosecutors will conduct further interviews with those involved in the case, leaving open the possibility that the accuser might say more about what she remembers from that night.
The accuser's testimony is the only known evidence that an alleged sexual assault took place at the off-campus party held by the lacrosse team. Two rounds of DNA testing compared samples from the accuser's body with samples taken from 46 members of the Duke lacrosse team. None of those tests linked any lacrosse players with samples from the rape kit.
With so much of the case hanging on witness testimony, not having the full cooperation of the accuser or Roberts could seriously undermine any prosecutor's case in court. More immediately, it could bring an end to the investigation.
"But if you're coming up on trial and you have a victim that doesn't want to answer questions, to recount the story over and over again, that's going to be a problem in court," said Josh Marquis, an Oregon-based district attorney and ranking member of the National District Attorneys Association.
Victims' rights advocates told ABC News that it could take the accuser time to get comfortable with the new prosecutors, stressing that her level of participation could change. They also say it could be part of a fairly normal reaction to what's been a highly abnormal case.
"She probably feels very beat up by the system. If you don't have a sense of trust in the system, then you're certainly not going to be forthcoming," said Leah Oettinger, an advocate most recently with the Durham Crisis Response Center. "Even just with the vicious attacks on the Web and her picture on TV. The trauma, the lack of trust that anyone's going to be there for you, fear of being alone all of that could contribute to someone's reluctance to talk."
A spokeswoman for the office of North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper would not comment on the accuser's participation with the investigation. She did, however, tell ABC News that the prosecutors were nearing the end of their work on the case.
"This will be wrapped up within the next few weeks," Julia White said. "They're drawing near the end of looking at documents and having conversations with those involved."
Sometime after the investigation is over, the attorney general's office is expected to announce whether the case will go to trial or if, on the contrary, charges against the three Duke lacrosse players will be dropped.
Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans were indicted for rape, sexual offense and kidnapping. The rape charges were dropped in December.
According to sources close to the team, the prosecution has questioned at least eight members of the lacrosse team to date students who attended the party but were not among those accused. The three indicted players have not yet been questioned.
On Thursday, Cooper and prosecutors from his office visited the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., where the party took place the night of March 13, 2006.
Special prosecutors Jim Coman and Mary Winstead took over the case in January after Nifong recused himself, citing charges of unethical conduct in his handling of the case.
Oettinger, the victims' rights advocate, said the mix of the media glare, which included attacks on the accuser's credibility, could contribute to her reluctance to talk about an alleged crime.
The accuser's credibility has been questioned in the mainstream media and in online blogs, many of which point to her work as an exotic dancer and changes she made to her original account of the alleged attack. In the aftermath of the party, she gave different versions of her story, changing the number of attackers and the length of the assault.
Josh Marquis, the Oregon prosecutor who is not involved in the case, agreed that it could take time before an accuser dealing with new investigators starts providing key details.
"There are times when a victim feels victimized by the justice system itself," said Marquis, who has prosecuted sex crimes. "If the victim feels her credibility is attacked, feels distrustful and resentful of investigators
then it could take time for her to open up." Oettinger said that the accuser's changing recollection of that night did not necessarily make it less likely that an assault had taken place. "[Assault victims] don't clearly remember the event right away. It's not unusual and it doesn't mean they are lying," Oettinger said. "When people have been through a trauma a car crash is a good analogy it can take them time to reconstruct the facts in their minds. Plus, sexual assault is uncomfortable for anyone to talk about." An accuser's reluctance to tell her story may not necessarily mean her alleged attackers are innocent. Nonetheless, it could seriously undermine the criminal case against them, especially in absence of compelling physical evidence. "The word of the victim is sometimes the only hard evidence that you have, and you need to prove that crime beyond a reasonable doubt. If the victim is reluctant, the chances you can achieve a conviction are substantially less," Marquis said. Victims' advocates caution that even if accusers opts out of telling their story to investigators, ultimately deciding not to pursue the case, that in itself is not a declaration of alleged attackers' innocence. "She could decide that in the end, it isn't worth going forward. That doesn't mean a crime didn't happen that night," Oettinger said. The next court date in the Duke lacrosse case is scheduled for May 7. If the timing suggested by the attorney general's office holds, prosecutors will finish the investigation weeks before the case is back in court for that hearing
Atsa Rog
emotions cloud recollections too...
"get comfortable with the new prosecutors" = "figure out how to 'play' the new prosecutors"
That's a pretty low standard for "hard evidence". It's eye-opening that he's speaking in law school generalities instead of addressing the specifics. I guess that's one way to pretend that we don't know what didn't happen.
>Kim said no such thing.
Kim is not the bodyguard/driver in question.
He is a black male who took "Precious" to motel where she had paid sex with a couple and used a "sex toy" on herself before lacrosse incident.
In a sworn statement given to defense lawyers, he described multiple instances of taking the supposed vic to local motels for paid sex.
Your # 19 speaks for me.
Pathetic.
Victims' advocates caution that even if accusers opts out of telling their story to investigators, ultimately deciding not to pursue the case, that in itself is not a declaration of alleged attackers' innocence.
Hell - they were even "innocent" before proved guilty - or even charged! Ask ABCNBCCBSCNN. Let's not forget the "Courageous 88" stormtroopers composed of vastly overpaid Duke faculty. By signing that travesty of a letter declaring them guilty, they all threw a blanket over these young men and beat them with an iron pipe.
Quite frankly, I am amazed that the accuser, Crystal Magnum, has not been arrested in the past few months. She is a repeat criminal. If she had been arrested for prostitution, drugs, assault, etc (again), would the North Carolina prosecutor's office have hushed it up? Given their recent track record, the answer is : "You bet."

Oh, and let's not forget the charming 2nd Dancer, Kim Roberts. The evidence points to her as the thief who took Magnum's share of the $800 the Duke players paid them!
Who Robbed Crystal Gail Mangum?
Cooper: Lacrosse Accuser 'Cooperative'
Posted: Mar. 16 5:44 p.m.
Updated: Mar. 16 7:42 p.m.
Durham The accuser in the Duke University lacrosse case is cooperating with investigators, state Attorney General Roy Cooper said Friday.
ABC News reported Friday that the accuser hadn't been forthcoming in interviews with special prosecutors and gave them incomplete answers, Cooper issued a statement disputing that claim.
"In discussions with our attorneys, the accuser has been cooperative in answering questions and providing information. More discussions are scheduled," the statement said, without citing the published report.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1238006/
Ping you to my post right above this one.
Roy, hon, why is this taking so long?
Didn't Rev. Jesse Jackson provide her with a scholarship? I wonder how this "scholar" is doing in college. Somehow I doubt she is taking courses, if any at all, in microbiology or Greek philosophy.
From the coach in the Foxnews piece --
" We remained silent for that period of time because we believed in those two words: the truth. There was no reason to debate that publicly. We were going to stand by it, stay the course "
So that's why you quit your job and bugged out, coach? What a wuss. What a fracking wuss. And since you weren't at the party that night, you know nothing. But here's your fifteen minutes of shame for deserting the team.
When (not IF) they are exonerated, will she keep "dancing" or can she be punished under the law?
Yes your anger is misplaced. From what I can tell, the Duke lacrosse players and ex-players do not share your view.
Yes your anger is misplaced. From what I can tell, the Duke lacrosse players and ex-players do not share your view.
Kim says she did not say anything about requiring a subpoena as the ABC story claimed.
Who said anything about a driver?
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