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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: TheSpottedOwl

IIRC in order to notarize, witness or sign a legal instrument (i.e.will) one has to be "Of sound mind". It's very clear that ANS was often not of sound mind - so who witnessed or notarized the real estate deals, contracts, wills, burial instructions etc.,

Answer: the person responsible for keeping her out of her mind.

This is just an abomination - we have to hope that cretin was so sure of himself he overplayed his hand and made some critical errors.


5,441 posted on 03/19/2007 9:52:30 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Grandmothers unite for Virgie.)
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To: Lizarde

Naw....Thompson wants him right there where he knows where he is and he's not taking stuff out of the house and destroying it. I'm sure Thompson has a PI on him.


5,442 posted on 03/19/2007 9:55:20 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Howlin
Actually, it's a pretty standard will, including all the clauses and articles.

Is that part about any properties i may have that may require clean up due to toxic chemicals standard will fare?

5,443 posted on 03/19/2007 9:56:08 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: kcw2007; All

Hi KC, Thanks for that will. I read the whole thing, but forgot to look at the dates. Dates it was drafted. Date it was signed. What were they? Everytime i use adobe acrobat i can read it and then my system freezes when i try to exit acrobat and i've got to log off and back on. Don't wanna go thru that.


5,444 posted on 03/19/2007 9:59:39 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Sacajaweau

If things are as cut and dry as Thompsons attorney says about the deed, then why all the delays? I don't know how much of a mortgage payment that place has, but it seems to me that Goat is stealing that amount from Thompson, every month. And the courts are allowing it.


5,445 posted on 03/19/2007 9:59:40 AM PDT by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: uncitizen

If the will stands the way it's written, then Dannilynn gets nothing, right? I'm positive that Goat wants that part to stay. Especially if Larry gets custody of DL.


5,446 posted on 03/19/2007 10:03:06 AM PDT by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: stlnative

That's Daniels college.


5,447 posted on 03/19/2007 10:05:39 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Rte66

It was "chloral hydrate," a sedative.

The Cloral Hydrate should be raising red flags.
It is very, very potent with very serious side effects and has generally fallen out of favor as a treatment for insomnia.
It's hard core and old time and very toxic when abused.
Perhaps that was the strategy to start with.
How long before we see Ketamine prescriptions ?
The DEA should have been involved in this investigation...way before ANS died.


5,448 posted on 03/19/2007 10:08:30 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: uncitizen

That, I don't know; but remember where that house is: for all we know, it could have been an oil field or had a gas station on it in years gone by.

Maybe it's in her deed.


5,449 posted on 03/19/2007 10:08:53 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

There's a good discussion on the CourtTV board re: corporate law. According to those more familiar, once Anna died, the corporation assets go into her estate and pass to Dannielynn. Howard, as an officer, would have little say or interest in the proceeds. If there were any stock issued and he owned a share/shares of said stock, he may have an interest in it outside the estate. There may have been no stock issued, don't know. It's probably moot since Hot Smoochie Lips was suspended as a corp. in 2005, according to the corp. searches done both here, I think, and on CourtTV boards.
The Anna, Inc. corporation name Geraldo mentioned seems to be a red herring, as it was a corporation begun in 1949 and suspended, so wasn't anything related to ANS.( also found in same searches.)


5,450 posted on 03/19/2007 10:09:19 AM PDT by tabor
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To: Sacajaweau
TWO PEOPLE have died!!! My God. I hope there is some justice in all this.

Yeah. I hope this isn't another Marilyn Monroe type deal where it remains a mystery for ever (not to us tho). But then again, HGS is no JFK.

5,451 posted on 03/19/2007 10:13:08 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: tabor; Rte66
Ah yes, but what about ANS Interactive?

THAT's the one Opri asked him about, and I believe we had some interesting research on that one last night.

OH, and when Howie was asked on the stand about ANS Interactive......he couldn't remember whether or not he was an officer of the corp. LOL.

5,452 posted on 03/19/2007 10:14:45 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Rte66

The Dannielynn Florida trust fund was a ruse, set up by HKS or the GAL, to justify the money supposedly being paid from ET or whoever for all the exclusive rights to Anna's story, death, funeral, etc.


5,453 posted on 03/19/2007 10:15:25 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Jrabbit
This is from early in the game. Howard wanted to execute (assume) the original mortgage as the father of her legal heir, i.e., Dannie Lynn (Under Bahama Law).

As far as I know, she ripped up the mortgage and started saying that it was a gift. My thoughts are that he couldn't get the money transferred out of the USA and the Bahama account was frozen at some $113,000+-.

I get a few of these things every year....where the deal goes sour because the "pending" mortgage never became effective and the offer was based on that contigency. Howard is trying to go back in time, but I don't think it will work. If that mortgage was drawn up, it was because that was part of the deal.

It was "Anna's Wishes" to sign it?? Well, she didn't sign it and he can't claim that she "wished" that she had signed it because she had already PUBLICLY claimed it was a gift.

5,454 posted on 03/19/2007 10:15:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sodpoodle
IIRC in order to notarize, witness or sign a legal instrument (i.e.will) one has to be "Of sound mind". It's very clear that ANS was often not of sound mind - so who witnessed or notarized the real estate deals, contracts, wills, burial instructions etc.,

You recall correctly. My mom changed her will at the insistence of my aunt. Mom had Alzheimers and dementia. My aunt was trying to protect my interests (still married to Mr. Wonderful at the time), but the IRS changed some rules between then, and when mom died. Made for a huge clusterf*ck. I didn't challenge the will, nor will I. I'm taken care of. Someone could make something out of mom's mental state should I die, though.

HKS knew darn good and well that ANS could not legally sign anything under the influence of all those drugs she was taking. She probably never realized that that bum purposely created that corporation to skirt the will issue. May he rot in hell...

5,455 posted on 03/19/2007 10:19:35 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: GYPSY286

I honestly don't know. I'm not up on trustee/guardianship issues. If Larry is her dad, would he have to go to court to get the trustee status of Dannielynn changed, or would he simply have to sign a couple of legal documents? If he is the dad, will he automatically become DL's guardian? I know (I think) that he could challenge executorship of Anna's will, but that would be handled during early probate proceedings, right?


5,456 posted on 03/19/2007 10:20:17 AM PDT by tabor
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Naw...I think the Marshall Case is dead...and thought so before this happened. But, if it is not, I think the right way to go is to have the Marshall Family set up a Trust for Dannie Lynn directly. And, I think that is how it will go.


5,457 posted on 03/19/2007 10:21:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Howlin
The house on the show was purchased by Anna - it is in Studio City. (I have no idea how you came up with MTV because her show was not on MTV and she was not affiliated with MTV at all.)

We have the correct 2 houses but the Realtor has the house numbers wrong on them in the listings that were online. Anna's house is the white one and not the red tiled roof one that Geraldo was showing on his show last night.
5,458 posted on 03/19/2007 10:22:09 AM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: windchime

Very interesting! That cool that your daughter attended the same school!

Yes, we all see how comfortable he was in the courtroom and in front of cameras. I had to laugh when they came out of the courtroom in Miami, and HKS and Virgie attempted to talk when Larry stepped in as if to say to them..."Here, I'll help you out. I don't think anyone heard you."

That was so cute. He certainly has an air of confidence.


5,459 posted on 03/19/2007 10:32:07 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: stlnative

She may have bought the house after the show, but The E Channel owned it during the show.

And, yes, as you so snarkily point out, I did make a mistake about which trash channel it was on.

Since you're so sure you're right, I'd love to hear your explanation of why a REALTOR, trying to make money, not news, would put up a listing with the wrong house number?


5,460 posted on 03/19/2007 10:33:11 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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