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'Glitter and Doom': Art to Make You Wince
Newsweek ^ | December 18, 2006 | Peter Plagens

Posted on 03/06/2007 7:01:14 AM PST by Sam Cree

Dec. 18, 2006 issue - In the first world war, germany suffered 5 million casualties. When the war was over, the country was left with 2 million orphans, a million widows and a million invalids. In the waning days of 1918, it underwent a revolution in which the kaiser abdicated and fled to the Netherlands. Soon thereafter, the victorious Allies imposed a staggering reparations burden on Germany. Unemployment skyrocketed, and inflation reached such insane proportions that paper currency made better firewood than money. German cities became, simultaneously, pits of poverty, starvation and disease, and dens of drug-fueled high life. The painter Max Beckmann, who'd been flung out of the Army and the war in 1915 due to a nervous breakdown at the front, said, "We must take part in the whole misery that is to come." He meant that he and his fellow artists mustn't avoid the grotesque subject matter that history had placed in front of them. They must paint it with all the realism—emotional and psychological, as well as physical—at their command.

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To: AnAmericanMother
My first reaction to that painting was corruption all dressed up in pristine white.
21 posted on 03/06/2007 9:10:37 AM PST by DejaJude
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To: what's up
You wrote, "Basically Nietchze said "God is dead" and made the case for tying Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest to mankind..."

No, he didn't, not in any of his works, anywhere. While it is true he proclaimed the death of God--or rather, the pointlessness of a belief in God, Nietzsche argued against Darwinism, wondering--if evolution was true--why the human stock seems to be degrading rather than advancing.
22 posted on 03/06/2007 9:25:45 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Rembrandt_fan
N. proclaimed the death of God as you say.

As for Darwin, N. made the case for Darwin inadvertantly thru applying much of Darwin's theory to social rather than biological behavior.

See http://ndpr.nd.edu/review.cfm?id=4801

23 posted on 03/06/2007 9:42:37 AM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
You wrote, "N. made the case for Darwin inadvertantly..."

He didn't make the case at all. As I wrote previously, Nietzsche derided Darwin's theories in those few instances in his writings where he even addressed evolution directly. Social Darwinism--which Darwin himself decried--was drawn from other wells. Nietzsche isn't blameless for the wreckage wrought by some of his ideas, but Social Darwinism wasn't one of them.
24 posted on 03/06/2007 9:55:23 AM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: Rembrandt_fan
Nietzsche derided Darwin's theories in those few instances in his writings where he even addressed evolution

That's why I say he made the case inadvertantly.

He derided Darwin, yet his own theories such as that of "The Superman" led toward a type of social Darwinism.

25 posted on 03/06/2007 9:59:07 AM PST by what's up
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To: Sam Cree

***I suspect that Beckman and Co. would find their worthy subjects for decadence, not among us "conservatives (if that is what we are)," but among the Hollywood glitterati and other super wealthy members of the Left.***

And we must not forget Gore's daughter in the gown so sheer it was see through.


26 posted on 03/06/2007 10:59:00 AM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: MinuteGal
I'm not sure we could sex anybody based on these paintings, there's so much distortion. I can't really get a good look at either hand.

Everybody in our family has what my daddy calls "fieldworkers' hands" with broad palms, short stubby fingers and big joints. My hands look exactly like my daddy's. Thank heavens my daughter got her father's hands, he has beautiful hands.

27 posted on 03/06/2007 11:29:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: MinuteGal

She looks a little like Janet Reno.


28 posted on 03/06/2007 12:09:30 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Rembrandt_fan; what's up
"God is Dead."

- Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is Dead."

- God

29 posted on 03/06/2007 12:23:27 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
In their own way, they contributed to the breakdown of Germany between the wars. Obviously they didn't single-handedly lead to Hitler and WWII, but they helped.

I can definitely see the correlation between these so-called intellectuals & Hitler's rise to power.

I don't condone the German people for voting him in office(I'm Jewish, BTW). Nevertheless, I can see how they got so sickened by liberalism that anyone who promoted patriotism & conservative values, albeit perverted, would look good in comparison.

People fear a reenactment of Nazism here. Ironically, I'm more concerned about its coming from the left-, not the right-wingers. They're the ones in back of the Islamists & other kooks.

30 posted on 03/06/2007 4:06:47 PM PST by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: MoochPooch

Agreed that the greater danger of anti Semitism comes from the Left, primarily because leftist doctrine puts the state (the people) in charge of society. So leftist anti Semitism would almost by definition be state sanctioned, as it was in Nazi Germany and the USSR.

Of course, modern American conservatives are now also leaning toward the idea that the state is more or less the shaper and arranger of society, so the dangers of right wing anti Semitism may be increasing as well.


31 posted on 03/07/2007 6:09:49 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: what's up

'Social Darwinism' is a 20th century term that had nothing to do with Nietzsche. And even a phrase like 'Survival of the fittest' was coined by British Sociologist Herbert Spencer. Nietzsche didn't agree with Darin or Spencer and felt that weakness (societal or biological) was a needed step of moving forward. his concept of the Uber mensch was in terms of achievement, not brute strength as the Nazis fraudulently put forth based mostly on his sister's forgery. Nietzsche would have despised the likes of Hitler.


32 posted on 03/20/2007 8:41:20 AM PDT by Borges
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To: AnAmericanMother
Expressionist Art is fascinating. It was a legitimate reaction to the French Impressionists. And the Nazis despised that sort of Art. Do you feel the same way about the German composers of the time like Mahler and Schoenberg?
33 posted on 03/20/2007 11:20:43 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
It may be fascinating . . . so is studying pathology. But pathology warns us of impending disease and death . . . so does this specific German Weimar art.

I took German for ten years, lived in Bavaria, and read extensively in the literature between-the-wars. You can see the same soul-sickness in the writings of the period.

Don't care for Schoenberg. Like some Mahler, especially the Lieder -- "Des Knaben Wunderhorn" is outstanding, I have the old RCA recording with FiDi and Schwartzkopf.

34 posted on 03/20/2007 12:07:49 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother
The whole point is that in Art you render the unpleasant aesthetic and find catharsis through it. The best of Klimt and co. did that. As did Mahler and Weill in music and so forth.
35 posted on 03/20/2007 12:11:31 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
My opinion is that they (especially Grosz and Dix) were exorcising their own demons . . . and inflicting it on the public in the process. That's just exorcism, it may accidentally be art, but that's not its primary intention.

Weill is another interesting case (I've sung Dreigroschen both in English and in German - it's better in German naturally - and done bits of Mahagonny in concert). Fortunately he was too good a musician to be TOO deliberately ugly, and wrote excellent music in spite of his and Brecht's intentions. Music is a purer art than painting, and it's far more difficult for a real musician to be bad on purpose. Bad musicians, that's another story . . . (don't get me started on Haugen or Haas or the St. Louee Jebbies).

36 posted on 03/20/2007 12:18:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Sam Cree
inflation reached such insane proportions that paper currency made better firewood than money

Aren't money and paper currency the same thing? (Goldbugs stay out of this...I am well aware that you consider anything but gold as fraud)

37 posted on 03/20/2007 12:18:53 PM PDT by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Artists have been "exorcising their own demons" a lot longer than the German Expressionists (Dante, Swift, Baudelare...).


38 posted on 03/20/2007 12:40:31 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Sometimes the result is good . . . but in the case of Grosz and Dix, not so good. They lost sight of the other side, so to speak. Dante never did. I'm with Dr. Sam Johnson on Swift, his output was very uneven. Baudelaire I haven't read enough of to comment on, never learned French despite a dear friend who took a degree from the Sorbonne and was always trying to get me to learn. . . . hey, she could translate anything I needed! < g >


39 posted on 03/20/2007 1:36:27 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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