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300 trailer(video)
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Posted on 03/02/2007 3:01:09 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME

Its the spartans fighting for freedom and democracy vs the persian empire.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 300; frankmiller; spartans; threehundred
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I want to see this movie. Its the spartans fighting for freedom and democracy vs the persian empire. Of coarse its based on Frank Miller's graphic novel,but it should be excellent. Here is the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhi5x7V3WXE

1 posted on 03/02/2007 3:01:11 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhi5x7V3WXE


2 posted on 03/02/2007 3:01:25 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKIpXpiADK8&mode=related&search=


3 posted on 03/02/2007 3:05:11 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Bookmarking for later. Looks good.


4 posted on 03/02/2007 3:10:14 PM PST by Argus
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I don't get it, is it a cartoon, a video game?

What is the gimmick supposed to be, with flying people and such?


5 posted on 03/02/2007 3:12:30 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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Its a movie.


6 posted on 03/02/2007 3:12:55 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME
What is with Youtube?

I can't click directly on a Youtube link without getting a mass of JavaScript.

I can go directly to Youtub, search for, and watch a video with no problem.

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7 posted on 03/02/2007 3:12:55 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Mnaaaah... Ok it looks impressive (visually...). But it's way more anout fantasy, fiction and matrix-esque style than about real history. Not my taste...


8 posted on 03/02/2007 3:14:28 PM PST by SolidWood (Attack Iran NOW!)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

I agree. Looks REALLY cool!


9 posted on 03/02/2007 3:15:40 PM PST by The Blitherer (What the devil is keeping the Yanks? Duncan Hunter for President '08!)
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To: SolidWood

Yeah its based on the graphic novel. Its fantasy based on a historical battle,but it looks very good.


10 posted on 03/02/2007 3:18:29 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Looks like an upgunned version of the original ("The 300 Spartans" starring Richard Egan), with a lot more sex and special effects. Deal me in!

Actually, Spartan society was anything but free, but they were real badassess in battle.


11 posted on 03/02/2007 3:18:48 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: MARKUSPRIME

There are better trailers for it at http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/


12 posted on 03/02/2007 3:22:24 PM PST by Covenantor
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To: Ikemeister

Yes. Freedom doesn't describe Sparta. A battle for sovereignty and identity would be a better fit.

This would make an unbelievably good movie without the fantasy.


13 posted on 03/02/2007 3:26:03 PM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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Absolutely. Hollywood hasn't learned that sometimes history doesn't need to be embellished....like the proposed movie about Valerie Plame and her worthless husband.


14 posted on 03/02/2007 3:28:25 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: Ikemeister; All
I must tell you all I was not only skeptical, I was evangelical in telling people to NOT see this movie. Greco-Roman History is one of my "things".

Then I read this http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/hanson101106.html by Victor Davis Hanson. If you are unfamiliar with him, he is a classist professor and sometimes conservative commentator who appears on NRO sometimes. He is the author of "Hoplites: The Classical Greek Battle Experience", "Who Killed Homer: The Demise of Classical Education and the Recovery of Greek Wisdom", and "A War Like No Other: How the Athenians and Spartans Fought the Peloponnesian War" among others (see his complete list here - http://www.victorhanson.com/Books/index.html)

I have re-thunk my position and will probably see it.

15 posted on 03/02/2007 3:40:48 PM PST by NucSubs (Islam delenda est.)
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Its fantasy based on a historical battle,

Will there be magic robots, too?

16 posted on 03/02/2007 3:45:45 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ( for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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"300, of course, makes plenty of allowance for popular tastes, changing and expanding the story to meet the protocols of the comic book genre. The film was not shot on location outdoors, but in a studio using the so-called “digital backlot” technique of sometimes placing the actors against blue screens. The resulting realism is not that of the sun-soaked cliffs above the blue Aegean — Thermopylae remains spectacularly beautiful today — but of the eerie etchings of the comic book.

The Spartans fight bare-chested without armor, in the “heroic nude” manner that ancient Greek vase-painters portrayed Greek hoplites, their muscles bulging as if they were contemporary comic book action heroes. Again, following the Miller comic, artistic license is made with the original story — the traitor Ephialtes is as deformed in body as he is in character; King Xerxes is not bearded and perched on a distant throne, but bald, huge, perhaps sexually ambiguous, and often right on the battlefield. The Persians bring with them exotic beasts like a rhinoceros and elephant, and the leader of the Immortals fights Leonidas in a duel (which the Greeks knew as monomachia). Shields are metal rather than wood with bronze veneers, and swords sometimes look futuristic rather than ancient.

Again, purists must remember that 300 seeks to bring a comic book, not Herodotus, to the screen."


17 posted on 03/02/2007 3:58:30 PM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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Freedom doesn't describe Sparta. A battle for sovereignty and identity would be a better fit. This would make an unbelievably good movie without the fantasy.

Perhaps (I'm no expert), but here is what Victor Davis Hanson (who is one) says about the film (see post #15):

"If critics think that 300 reduces and simplifies the meaning of Thermopylae into freedom versus tyranny, they should reread carefully ancient accounts and then blame Herodotus, Plutarch, and Diodorus — who long ago boasted that Greek freedom was on trial against Persian autocracy, free men in superior fashion dying for their liberty, their enslaved enemies being whipped to enslave others."

18 posted on 03/02/2007 4:30:43 PM PST by Bitter Bierce
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Again, purists must remember that 300 seeks to bring a comic book, not Herodotus, to the screen."

QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

"300" is a comic book brought to the screen, in the same fashion as Frank Miller's "Sin City".

This is not history, this is Art.

19 posted on 03/02/2007 4:33:30 PM PST by Wormwood (Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
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"If critics think that 300 reduces and simplifies the meaning of Thermopylae into freedom versus tyranny, they should reread carefully ancient accounts and then blame Herodotus, Plutarch, and Diodorus — who long ago boasted that Greek freedom was on trial against Persian autocracy, free men in superior fashion dying for their liberty, their enslaved enemies being whipped to enslave others."

I'm no stranger to the use of the word "freedom" in history. Yet it was not used to describe freedom as we do today. For some Greeks it was close, but not for the Spartans.

Throughout history "Freedom" is used in reference to the people, not the individual, and that is what I pointed out. "Our freedom" is a royal "our" for most before 1776. As a people the Spartans were extremely independent and incredibly defensive of their sovereignty. As individuals, there was no true freedom in Sparta.

20 posted on 03/02/2007 4:39:40 PM PST by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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