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“Allahu Akbar” heard on Video Inside Trolley Square.
16 February 2007 | Self

Posted on 02/16/2007 5:04:54 PM PST by NraFreedom

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To: Ramius
A terrorist by any other name is a sin against America.

This murdering scum needs to be labelled.

21 posted on 02/16/2007 5:24:50 PM PST by OldFriend (Swiftboating - Sinking a politician's Ship of Fools by Torpedoes of Truth)
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To: volunbeer

I would imagine that if a man decided to drive off a cliff to kill himself, he would utter the same phrase, if he were Muslim.
I doubt the phrase is exclusive to terrorist scum.


22 posted on 02/16/2007 5:28:08 PM PST by soupcon
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To: MizSterious

I agree. There have been too many lies (e.g. about the terrorist attack by the Hindu cult on the west coast, the framing of the two Border Guards, and WMD). If the government lies to us, how can we trust them?


23 posted on 02/16/2007 5:28:44 PM PST by Dante3
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To: NraFreedom

The audio quality is not very good. The person who took the video, the off duty police officer, the police on the scene and witnesses would have heard it clearly. Maybe you could find a phone number for one of those witnesses or call the police station and ask or maybe that information would be in the police report itself.


24 posted on 02/16/2007 5:32:11 PM PST by faq
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To: xcamel
Hmmm. I'm a bit rusty (used to do audio for aliving), remove ech0. Not in my DAW
25 posted on 02/16/2007 5:35:21 PM PST by xmission (Dont isn't a strategy, Freedom isn't Free, Dems encourage our enemy,)
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To: NraFreedom

"Allah Akbar"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sounds like it to me to,,,hard to hear...


26 posted on 02/16/2007 5:38:14 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: MizSterious

I agree that its silly for the FBI to jump out in front of an investigation and say they know it wasn't terrorism even before they've set foot on the crime scene.

That's silly, but I don't feel particularly lied-to or offended about it. I think it's the product of bureaucratic knee-jerking in the face of the incessantly stupid-question-repeating gaggle of insipid reporters that gather at these things. It's more a product of annoyance with reporters asking the same lame questions time after time until a sort of institutional fog is sent up every time they have to deal with them.

But sure... it would be nice if they'd learn that it is OK to say "We just don't know". But *nothing* inspires a reporter to kick into hyperdrive like smelling fresh blood in the form of an admission like that.


27 posted on 02/16/2007 5:38:34 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: Dante3
about the terrorist attack by the Hindu cult on the west coast, the framing of the two Border Guards, and WMD

Dunno 'bout this Hindu cult of which you speak. Framing of the border guards? C'mon. and WMD? Who lied about that?

28 posted on 02/16/2007 5:40:45 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

funny, sounds like "come outside, you outside!" to me - or something like that. This right after you hear "O.B.! O.B.!" at about 1:38-1:40.


29 posted on 02/16/2007 5:41:16 PM PST by California74
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To: xmission

try audacity


30 posted on 02/16/2007 5:41:42 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: California74

I don't hear it either. But I did play it backwards and I can clearly hear somebody say "I am the walrus".


31 posted on 02/16/2007 5:42:09 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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To: NraFreedom
Here is a direct link to Full Coverage of The Terror at Trolley Square. The police are saying the perp was just a disturbed individual. No mention of the Muslim battle cry "Allah Akbar."

Police: Talovic Had No Terrorist Connections

(KUTV) SALT LAKE CITY Was the Trolley Square attack in any way related to terrorism against Americans?

Some people are saying it, but police say that isn’t the case. Still, law enforcement is investigating all possibilities, including that one.

“To this point we have not found any connection that would lead us to believe that race, religion or political influence had anything to do with this person’s actions,” says Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank.

Shooter Sulejman Talovic was Muslim, and some ask whether his Trolley Square rampage was motivated by religion or political jihad against Americans.

We asked Chief Burbank, “You believe this was not an act of terrorism, either organized or just individual?”

“That is true. I do not believe that, and we have been working closely with the FBO and ICE to make that determination, and they haven’t found anything, either,” Chief Burbank responded.

At a candle light vigil head for the victims of the shooting Thursday night, Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson urged cooperation and acceptance of the Bosnian population living in Utah.

The Chief worries false rumors of terrorism and Talovic’s Muslim background might fuel hatred.

Chief Burbank said, “The thing that concerns me most is the hatred and bias that’s being portrayed towards a race, towards a group of people. That’s absolutely wrong.”

32 posted on 02/16/2007 5:44:49 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: soupcon

If this was what he yelled it was possibly his motivation and we deserve to know. That does not mean I think all muslims are terrorists if that is what you insinuate.

If it was a confused white kid with Aryan nation tattoos who gunned down people based on their race would that motive not be mentioned in news coverage (and be investigated?).

Why the apparent double standard? Motive is reported all the time regarding crime. Columbine was investigated and discussed for weeks and I would argue that helped everyone (schools, law enforcement, and communities) be more conscious of the possibility.


33 posted on 02/16/2007 5:47:07 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: faq

Is the police report public domain? or public record? Can I get it???


34 posted on 02/16/2007 5:49:36 PM PST by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton, and John Kerry, should be charged, convicted and shot for the crime of Treason.)
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To: NraFreedom

okay. I've figured out what they're saying - right after they yell Police... fire and OB! OB! (or something to that effect), it's "Come outside, to outside, c'mon" (BANG!!) "Hurry up! Move it! Move out!"

my interpretation... of course... I could be wrong. But I definately DO NOT hear "allahu ahkbar."


35 posted on 02/16/2007 5:53:51 PM PST by California74
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To: volunbeer
That does not mean I think all muslims are terrorists if that is what you insinuate.

Can we stop with the PC apologies?

Do you think more Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with the WTC attackers (who definitely were Muslims) than Germans were Nazis or sympathized elimination of certain non-Aryans?

We are at war with these people. They must be eliminated until they surrender, surrender their arms and the Korans. This isn't because we care about their strange (to us) customs or that we are bloodthirsty, but rather than we want to survive.

ML/NJ

36 posted on 02/16/2007 6:00:33 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: California74
I heard the "OB" part at that point,,,hard to hear,,,

What's easy to hear is the cops first words everytime,,,
(How Many Has It Been ?)

"Not Terrorism"...
37 posted on 02/16/2007 6:01:56 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: xcamel

Thanks


38 posted on 02/16/2007 6:02:58 PM PST by xmission (Dont isn't a strategy, Freedom isn't Free, Dems encourage our enemy,)
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To: ml/nj

I have known many muslims and I don't consider them terrorists.

What is your solution? Genocide?





39 posted on 02/16/2007 6:10:42 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: volunbeer
I have known many muslims and I don't consider them terrorists. What is your solution? Genocide?

Take your liberal nonsense to DU.

Was it "genocide" when we killed all those Germans? Or when we killed all those Japanese?

My solution is to subdue the Muslims by all means available to us including nuclear weapons. When it appears that they are no longer a threat to us we can stop. They will decide how many of them have to die before we reach that point. Unfortunately it will just a matter of time until a substantial majority of American agree with me.

(And BTW, I noticed you didn't bother to answer my question about Muslims and Germans. Cat got your tongue?)

ML/NJ

40 posted on 02/16/2007 6:27:11 PM PST by ml/nj
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