Posted on 02/16/2007 5:04:54 PM PST by NraFreedom
“Allahu Akbar” heard on Video Inside Trolley Square.
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing and providing you with this information because I need help. A video was shot by Jaron Dansie, who usually shoots wedding videos. Dansie found himself trapped inside Trolley Square Mall when a gunman entered the mall and began shooting people. What is more important than the images is the audio portion of this video. Various persons on FreeRepublic Dot Com on the Internet have discovered what they strongly feel are the words “Allahu Akbar” repeated in two places on this video. If this is true, then this event is most likely an act of terrorism by a Muslim in the War On Terror.
The video can be found on two Internet sights. It is suggested that the first link (liveleak Dot Com) be used as it has a timer on the video. The two sites are as follows:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8dbc5_4507
and
http://kutv.com/video/?id=23425@kutv.dayport.com
The Islamic war cry was first identified with any sureness by Freeper “NraFreedom” he posted it on FreeRepublic Dot Com and allowed others to listen to it. NraFreedom comments (the times refer to the approximate times on the LiveLeak Dot Com video):
As it turns out, Allahu Akbar is shouted in two places on this video. The video has a timer on it. At location 1:38 (one minute thirty-eight seconds) or 1:39 the terrorist shouts the Islamic war cry three times (you only hear Allahu of the third time; the Akbar part is covered by a gunshot). At location 1:47 The same voice shouts the war cry once or twice more.
The funny thing about this is that I originally heard it the second time but was not sure. In fact I entered this in my daily journal for yesterday:
KUTV Channel Two local CBS affiliate here in SLC released a video taken by a person hiding in a gift shop inside of Trolley Square during the shootout with the shooter. I listened to it very closely and found the Islamic war cry, Allahu Akbar repeated three times. There are more gunshots and then I thought I heard the war cry another two times; however, I was not sure about the last two times.
Now, others have heard both times in their listening to the tapes; and, I said nothing to anyone about the second war cries! People have been kind enough to use audio editing software to buffer and clean the audio up and have heard it. Many have heard the first time it is shouted, but few have heard the second time.
The end of the whole matter for me is that it was on the tape and it was not just me thinking I heard it. I really did hear it (By Freeper “NraFreedom)
Other Freepers who say they have heard the same thing are as follows:
I can hear it. The video has a timer on it: starting @ 1:38 OPD! OPD! alla u AKBAR alla U akBar (rapidly) then a shotgun(?) blast 1:44 "There he is!" followed quickly by 2 perhaps 3 more alla u akbar's for perhaps 15 seconds it sounds like the officer is negotiating with someone "if you want get out come with me(?)" @ 2:01 5 gun shots in quick succession @ 2:12 shotgun blast @ 2:15 shotgun blast @ 2:20 many blasts it's all over by 2:30 when you see the Tabula Rasa sign ((by Freeper “youngjim”)
"ALLAH AKBAR" Heard 3 times at 1:38-1:40 into the video. (by Freeper “Rb ver. 2.0")
I listened to the video a second time after it was fully buffered. I agree with your observation. I heard "Allahu Akbar" at last twice in quick succession after the police identified themselves at 1:38. A 3rd utterance occurred about 1:47 into the video. Islamic jihad comes to the shopping mall. No doubt in my mind. The PC press will continue to play it down. Terrorist incidents just mean another opportunity to run "wall to wall" coverage on a single topic while the rest of the newsroom takes a nap. The gun control Democrats are licking their chops with an incident that proves that it's necessary to disarm the citizens...for their own good. (by Freeper “Myrddin”)
You're 100% right. After the shout of "police" and the unintelligible "O.B.?" twice - then I heard IN A DIFFERENT VOICE "Allah Akbar" three times before a gunshot. (by Freeper “by drpix”)
I am hoping that you can assist in either refuting or validating what we think we have heard. If this is validated, please make sure that the American people get the word. The Main Stream Media just does not want this to get out.
Thank You! If I can be of further help or answer any questions, Please feel free to contact me.
Freeper ID= NraFreedom
This murdering scum needs to be labelled.
I would imagine that if a man decided to drive off a cliff to kill himself, he would utter the same phrase, if he were Muslim.
I doubt the phrase is exclusive to terrorist scum.
I agree. There have been too many lies (e.g. about the terrorist attack by the Hindu cult on the west coast, the framing of the two Border Guards, and WMD). If the government lies to us, how can we trust them?
The audio quality is not very good. The person who took the video, the off duty police officer, the police on the scene and witnesses would have heard it clearly. Maybe you could find a phone number for one of those witnesses or call the police station and ask or maybe that information would be in the police report itself.
"Allah Akbar"
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Sounds like it to me to,,,hard to hear...
I agree that its silly for the FBI to jump out in front of an investigation and say they know it wasn't terrorism even before they've set foot on the crime scene.
That's silly, but I don't feel particularly lied-to or offended about it. I think it's the product of bureaucratic knee-jerking in the face of the incessantly stupid-question-repeating gaggle of insipid reporters that gather at these things. It's more a product of annoyance with reporters asking the same lame questions time after time until a sort of institutional fog is sent up every time they have to deal with them.
But sure... it would be nice if they'd learn that it is OK to say "We just don't know". But *nothing* inspires a reporter to kick into hyperdrive like smelling fresh blood in the form of an admission like that.
Dunno 'bout this Hindu cult of which you speak. Framing of the border guards? C'mon. and WMD? Who lied about that?
funny, sounds like "come outside, you outside!" to me - or something like that. This right after you hear "O.B.! O.B.!" at about 1:38-1:40.
try audacity
I don't hear it either. But I did play it backwards and I can clearly hear somebody say "I am the walrus".
Police: Talovic Had No Terrorist Connections
(KUTV) SALT LAKE CITY Was the Trolley Square attack in any way related to terrorism against Americans?
Some people are saying it, but police say that isn’t the case. Still, law enforcement is investigating all possibilities, including that one.
“To this point we have not found any connection that would lead us to believe that race, religion or political influence had anything to do with this person’s actions,” says Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank.
Shooter Sulejman Talovic was Muslim, and some ask whether his Trolley Square rampage was motivated by religion or political jihad against Americans.
We asked Chief Burbank, “You believe this was not an act of terrorism, either organized or just individual?”
“That is true. I do not believe that, and we have been working closely with the FBO and ICE to make that determination, and they haven’t found anything, either,” Chief Burbank responded.
At a candle light vigil head for the victims of the shooting Thursday night, Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson urged cooperation and acceptance of the Bosnian population living in Utah.
The Chief worries false rumors of terrorism and Talovic’s Muslim background might fuel hatred.
Chief Burbank said, “The thing that concerns me most is the hatred and bias that’s being portrayed towards a race, towards a group of people. That’s absolutely wrong.”
If this was what he yelled it was possibly his motivation and we deserve to know. That does not mean I think all muslims are terrorists if that is what you insinuate.
If it was a confused white kid with Aryan nation tattoos who gunned down people based on their race would that motive not be mentioned in news coverage (and be investigated?).
Why the apparent double standard? Motive is reported all the time regarding crime. Columbine was investigated and discussed for weeks and I would argue that helped everyone (schools, law enforcement, and communities) be more conscious of the possibility.
Is the police report public domain? or public record? Can I get it???
okay. I've figured out what they're saying - right after they yell Police... fire and OB! OB! (or something to that effect), it's "Come outside, to outside, c'mon" (BANG!!) "Hurry up! Move it! Move out!"
my interpretation... of course... I could be wrong. But I definately DO NOT hear "allahu ahkbar."
Can we stop with the PC apologies?
Do you think more Muslims are terrorists or sympathize with the WTC attackers (who definitely were Muslims) than Germans were Nazis or sympathized elimination of certain non-Aryans?
We are at war with these people. They must be eliminated until they surrender, surrender their arms and the Korans. This isn't because we care about their strange (to us) customs or that we are bloodthirsty, but rather than we want to survive.
ML/NJ
Thanks
I have known many muslims and I don't consider them terrorists.
What is your solution? Genocide?
Take your liberal nonsense to DU.
Was it "genocide" when we killed all those Germans? Or when we killed all those Japanese?
My solution is to subdue the Muslims by all means available to us including nuclear weapons. When it appears that they are no longer a threat to us we can stop. They will decide how many of them have to die before we reach that point. Unfortunately it will just a matter of time until a substantial majority of American agree with me.
(And BTW, I noticed you didn't bother to answer my question about Muslims and Germans. Cat got your tongue?)
ML/NJ
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