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Duncan Who ?
2-14-07 | rodomila

Posted on 02/14/2007 7:28:54 PM PST by rodomila

I used to think Free Republic was a site with mostly rational people. I can't understand why so many of you waste your time with Duncan Hunter fantasies. Really folks hallucinogenic drugs are illegal and bad for you too. Stop taking them !!! No one outside of the Hunter family and this website thinks he has the remotest chance of being elected President. The Ronald Reagan comparisons are idiotic. Reagan had been a two term Governor of the largest state in the nation. He had been a national household name for over 40 years when he ran in 1980. God only made one Ronald Reagan. Duncan Hunter, although he is a solid Congressman, is no Ronald Reagan. I'm a conservative and I would love to have a viable conservative to work for this election cycle. But we don't have one. McCain is a no go for me. I loathe the treacherous man and believe he is non-compos mentis (loony). That leaves Mitt and Rudy. Newt's entry would hopefully pull the other two to the right (which would be great), and he might even win the nomination (which would probably be bad as I don't think he would win the general election).

That would leave us with Hildebeast or even worse B. Hussein Obama. Therefore, although I'm pro-life, pro-gun, and anti the mainstreaming of homosexuality, I am trying to decide between Rudy and Mitt.

For me the war on islamo nazi psychos is the top issue and Rudy gets my vote on that one.

Issue two is finding a candidate who won't give in to global warming hysteria because that is the lefties preferred path currently to world government and destruction of our economic system. I have to look into Mitt's position on this because Rudy made some rather discouraging comments on this recently (although they were not as bad as originally reported here.)

Next is immigration. We need someone to enforce our laws and get control of the borders. Mitt seems to the right of Rudy on this but both have a way to go. Maybe Tancredo in the race can generate some movement.

Taxes - we need to keep the Bush tax cuts at the very minimum and hopefully get a bolder overhaul of the system.

Judges - we want young Scalias.

Spending restraint - I'm hoping that both, as successful businessmen, will hold the line on spending better than GWB who was a total disappointment in this area.

Let's try to move the viable candidates closer to us on the issues rather than engage in self defeating fantasies of "ideal" candidates who no one has ever heard of and who have never run any larger organization than a Congressman's staff.


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To: processing please hold

Found it. I'm in the praying category.


221 posted on 02/15/2007 7:41:32 AM PST by pissant
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
"The reason our Conservative candidates have such a hard time in the primaries is because of attitudes just like yours, whereby you are willing to sacrifice your principles and hold your nose for the RINO candidates that the MSM have already thrust forward as our only real choices. Why don't you get out and help Conservative candidates like Hunter rather than trying to tear him down. Supporting the MSM-christened candidates like Giuliani, Romney, and McCain will onyl lead to more of the same type of government that we've been railing against for years."

Excellent post.

222 posted on 02/15/2007 7:42:00 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel (ATTENTION: THERE IS A REAL CONSERVATIVE RUNNING IN '08: DUNCAN HUNTER)
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To: TheeOhioInfidel
I'm a conservative and I would love to have a viable conservative to work for this election cycle. But we don't have one.

I just had to post this again. Is this not insanity. Do we not stand for anything greater than compromise? For those of you who think Bush is a moderate at best, just wait and see what it will be like with a Rino in office.

223 posted on 02/15/2007 7:45:46 AM PST by TheeOhioInfidel (ATTENTION: THERE IS A REAL CONSERVATIVE RUNNING IN '08: DUNCAN HUNTER)
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To: pissant
Saying Rudy has the potential to destroy the GOP is not a threat. Read post 161

Well, coming on here and posting over and over and over again that you will bolt the party if Rudy gets the nod does seem like bullying, threatening, intimidating tactics, to me.

We all have our breaking point. If McCain got the nod, I would not vote for him. But does that mean I'd react like post 189/199 when asked about it?

My friend, I respect ya'lls opinion. Rudy isn't my first choice, Newt is. Altho I do believe Rudy would do a good job, so if he gets the nod, I'd vote for him.

I don't think he'd grab guns, I think his policies in NY were geared to NY, and he wouldn't apply them to the nation. I personally don't care about gays, or abortion. I think he's shown he's a good manager, and he's tough on crime/defense. We could do worse.

224 posted on 02/15/2007 7:46:28 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: motormouth
Oh, got it, I misunderstood.

Sorry!

225 posted on 02/15/2007 7:47:25 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Registered
Most of America doesn't even remember the Waltons

Blue State America, I can believe that.
226 posted on 02/15/2007 7:48:41 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: pissant

Notice in the poll that when the question of Rudy in the general election arises, Conservatives are split roughly three ways.

And yet Rudy supporters have the nerve to claim he can win.


227 posted on 02/15/2007 7:52:47 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: pissant
Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting I have nothing to say to you. MM
228 posted on 02/15/2007 7:53:17 AM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: Dominic Harr

It is a fact though, not a threat, that millions of staunch conservatives will not vote for a liberal leader. In my post 161, I laid out a short list of items that are not "social conservative" positions, but simply conservative positions, that Rudy does not ascribe to.

Should the party promote a candidate because the MSM considers him to be the best, or should the party promote the guy who most closely reflects its platform and Reaganism?

This is a battle for the soul of the party


229 posted on 02/15/2007 7:53:59 AM PST by pissant
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To: motormouth

Hey, people could get offended by something like that! LOL


230 posted on 02/15/2007 7:54:38 AM PST by pissant
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To: motormouth; pissant

Don't do it Motormouth! Life is too short already! That's no way to solve your problems! Think of all the Freepers you'll leave behind!!!!

C'mon ("sob") we LOVE ya man!


231 posted on 02/15/2007 7:58:56 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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To: BunnySlippers
Hunter has the numbers where the numbers count:

Hunter takes Arizona GOP straw poll

NORTH COUNTY -- U.S. Rep. Duncan Hunter's long-shot bid for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination got a boost over the weekend when he emerged on top in a straw poll of Republican precinct committeemen in Arizona's most-populated county.

Hunter, R-El Cajon, got 96 votes among the 458 ballots in the non-binding poll of Maricopa County party officials asked to list their first choice for president.

Hunter easily beat Arizona's own U.S. Sen. John McCain, considered a front-runner in the GOP presidential race, who drew a comparatively paltry 50 votes. Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney came in second in Saturday's poll with 82 first-place votes.

Campaigning in South Carolina on Monday, Hunter said he believes his long-held positions on two key national issues carried the day with the conservative Arizona Republicans from the county that includes Phoenix.

"It's great news," Hunter said during a telephone interview. "I think the message of a strong national defense and border security issues has resonated in Arizona."

The 52nd Congressional District congressman who represents parts of Poway, Rancho Bernardo and Ramona has long championed the military and Bush administration policies in Iraq. He is now the ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, a panel he chaired until Democrats won control of the new Congress.

On border issues, Hunter long stressed the need for better security. He sponsored a bill last year to build a fence along the entire border. While that measure was adopted by the House and Senate, the money to build it has not been appropriated.

Lyle Tuttle, the Maricopa County Republican Committee chairman, said Hunter's showing wasn't expected.

"I was surprised, but when you look at it you see that Duncan is a pretty solid conservative and he should take pride in that he scored so well."

Tuttle said McCain's stance on immigration in which he favors amnesty for illegal immigrants hurts with the Phoenix-area Republicans as well as the GOP's rank and file across Arizona, a state that like California shares a border with Mexico.

"That and his attempt to appeal to the center of the political spectrum have not played with the conservative people here in Arizona," Tuttle said during a telephone interview.

The poll also shows GOP candidates that they shouldn't assume that Arizona will go to McCain.

"Arizona is very much in play," Tuttle said. "This straw poll demonstrates that candidates who might be tempted to ignore campaigning here ... may make a big mistake."

The 58-year-old Hunter did not fare as well in the straw poll when the Arizona party officials were asked to list acceptable presidential candidates. In that category, the 13-term lawmaker tied for seventh-place with GOP hopeful Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas.

Last week, Hunter filed his formal presidential exploratory committee papers with the Federal Election Commission, a step that allows him to begin accepting and spending campaign contributions.

He plans to make his formal announcement for president in San Diego sometime before the end of the month. He announced he was considering the run in November and said he would not seek re-election to his House seat.

-- Contact staff writer Mark Walker at (760) 740-3529 or mlwalker@nctimes.com.


We need every American we can make.
Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them...

"My life’s work and the work of our party is to pass on to our posterity a secure America, strong and free." GOHUNTER08.COM

232 posted on 02/15/2007 7:59:13 AM PST by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them. www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Enosh

The Rudy supporters do not see FR as a representative cross section of the GOP, and to some degree they are correct. But they also fail to realize that without enthusiasm for a candidate from the conservative wing of the party, the GOP cannot win a national election. So they dismiss the need for them altogether.

Romney is smarter than that. He KNOWS that he cannot stand by his liberal past, and has disavowed much of it. So even if Hunter is not the one to catch Rudy, it will be Romney. But make no mistake, a conservative alternative will rise.


233 posted on 02/15/2007 8:00:08 AM PST by pissant
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To: mkjessup; motormouth

I think she had someone else's neck in mind. LOL


234 posted on 02/15/2007 8:00:51 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Found it. I'm in the praying category.

I'm one of the few in the 'stay home'. Computer off now.

235 posted on 02/15/2007 8:01:30 AM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: mkjessup; pissant

ROFLMAO..

First..Im NO man. (Im looking into changing my screen name so people will stop assuming Im a male) :o)

Second, the noose was for Pissant, not for me. LOL

MM

Thanks for your concern when you thought I was going to hang myself.. it was very touching and emotional. I actually wept. LOL


236 posted on 02/15/2007 8:03:04 AM PST by motormouth (It's not true that life is one damn thing after another; it is one damn thing over and over.)
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To: rodomila
Reagan had been a two term Governor of the largest state in the nation.

At the time Reagan was Governor, California (32) was behind New York (45) and tied with Pennsylvania (32) in number of electoral votes. If you can't get the facts right, your analysis is suspect.

237 posted on 02/15/2007 8:05:30 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: motormouth
I would never have thought someone called "motormouth" to be male. "Motorhead", that would be different. ;)
238 posted on 02/15/2007 8:06:01 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: pissant
It is a fact though, not a threat, that millions of staunch conservatives will not vote for a liberal leader.

The 'threat' is the behavior, the manner in which many of the anti-Rudy folks are making their case. The bullying and intimidation is in the rhetoric: the 'Rudy is a gun-grabbing, gay-loving, child-killing, etc' talk.

You must recognized the near-hysterical pitch to much of the debate. The pro-Rudy folks just like Rudy. The anti-Rudy folks are name-calling, insulting, etc. (I just don't agree he's a 'Liberal', that seems like name-calling to me).

I, personally, don't think GW is much of a 'conservative' -- but I'd never call him names.

Just an observation.

I'm curious to see how this plays out. Rudy seems to have the edge at this early stage. If he does win the nomination, a lot of folks here have drawn some pretty clear lines in the sand.

Next November could be very wierd. Most of the hard-core D true-believers seem opposed to her, too. So we could have Rudy v. Hilly, with both extremes not voting for either.

Very interesting times we live in.

239 posted on 02/15/2007 8:08:47 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: rodomila

Nobody in the public has even heard of Duncan Hunter and his race is getting NO attention.

He simply does not even have a slim, not even a slight, chance.

"President Hunter" just sets up the jokes and comical TV ads anyway.


240 posted on 02/15/2007 8:11:01 AM PST by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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