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Imprisoned border agent did report shooting
WorldNetDailyc.om ^ | February 7, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/07/2007 2:07:58 AM PST by Man50D

WND has obtained a Department of Homeland Security memo indicating Border Patrol agent Jose Compean made a complete, in-person verbal report to his supervisor at the scene immediately following the shooting incident for which he and colleague Ignacio Ramos are now in prison.

The May 15, 2005, report filed by DHS Special Agent Christopher Sanchez documents a conversation between Compean and his supervisor that explains the decision by all nine Border Patrol agents and supervisors on the scene not to file written reports.

As reported by WND yesterday, a DHS memo filed by Sanchez April 12, 2005, shows seven agents and two supervisors were present at the Feb. 17, 2005 incident also decided not to file written reports.

The April 12, 2005, DHS memo stated that all the agents present at the incident were equally guilty for not filing a written report.

These memos directly contradict the repeated statements of the prosecutor, U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton, that agents Ramos and Compean filed false reports about the incident.

As far as WND can determine, no written reports were filed by any of the Border Patrol agents or supervisors on the field.

Moreover, the record of the May 15, 2005, memo indicates Compean was truthful in reporting verbally to the most senior supervisor present at the incident.

Sanchez's memo of May 15, 2005, is a transcript of a hearing held by Compean with El Paso Border Patrol Sector Chief Louis Barker. The hearing was held at Compean's request in order to protest his proposed indefinite suspension resulting from his March 18, 2005, arrest on criminal charges.

The first part of the hearing was held April 7, 2005, before Compean's April 13, 2005, indictment. The second recording from the hearing is dated April 28, 2005.

At the administrative hearing, Compean was accompanied by union representative Robert Russell, a vice president of Local 1929, the El Paso branch of the National Border Patrol Council.

In the opening statement transcribed from the April 7, 2005, audio cassette, Russell makes Barker aware that Compean had made a complete report on the scene to Jonathan Richards, the more senior of the two supervisors who present at the incident.

Russell's testimony references a wound Compean suffered on his hand, a gash between the thumb and index finger, which he suffered when scuffling in the ditch with the drug smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, who had abandoned his vehicle and was attempting to escape back to Mexico on foot. Russell points to this wound as evidence of aggravated assault committed on Compean by the drug smuggler.

Here is Russell's recorded testimony:

Well, I mean, the base … the basis of this is basically … ummm … Mr. Compean … an assault took place that day against one of our agents, and he did defend himself, and the part of the assault is never mentioned in the complaint or anywhere by OIG (Office of Inspector General) that they know clearly how this did take place. A few sentences later, Russell again references that what transpired at the scene was observed by the agents and supervisors in the field and subsequently fully known to the Border Patrol management at the station in Fabens, Texas.

Russell indicates that management at Fabens themselves chose not to make a report about Compean's injury. Here is his testimony:

Even management at the station in Fabens was fully aware of what had transpired and for whatever reason nothing was ever generated … and once all this comes forward, I mean, it's my belief even his attorneys' belief that even once that does come forward and all that information is presented that the charges will possibly be dropped … or dismissed … or he will be found not guilty … based on that … what did transpire. Directly contradicting prosecutor Sutton's assertion that agents Ramos and Compean filed false reports, the April 2005 administrative hearing reveals Compean was forthcoming concerning the events of the incident.

In the second cassette, Russell makes clear that the reluctance to do more formal reporting after the incident came from supervisor Richards.

But the fact of the matter is an assault did take place. Umm … Mr. Richards did know about it. Umm … whether Mr. Compean … Mr. Compean said yes sir to this or whether he was assaulted or not … doesn't negate Mr. Richards responsibility to take some action from the facts that were presented to him as to what happened out there.

He was on the scene. He was told by another agent exactly what had happened and it pretty much apparently stopped at that point.

Russell argues Richards did not want to go through the trouble of filing written paperwork. So rather than press the hand injury, which Compean felt was minor, Compean gave in to Richards' pressure to forget about the hand injury, obviating the only issue the supervisor felt might be needed to document in writing.

Station Chief Barker asked Compean why he didn't report the shooting. Compean admitted that possibly a written report should have been filed, but he and the other Border Patrol on the scene considered the incident inconsequential.

Compean testified:

As …As I stated to … umm … to this earlier … I didn't … I just … I know it was wrong for us not to reported it and I … if I would have thought that he had been hit or anything like that had happened I would have … I didn't … I just … I knew we were going to get in trouble because the way … the way it's been at the station the last two … three years … uhh … I mean everything always comes down to the alien. The agents are as soon as anything comes up … it is always … always the agent's fault. The agents have always been cleared but, with management, it's always been the agent's fault. We're the ones that get in trouble. Compean continued to note that Aldrete-Davila escaped, and none of the agents in the field thought he had been hit. All the agents and supervisors in the field knew there had been a shooting and none of the agents or supervisors filed any written reports. There was no "cover-up" of anything that happened that day in the field, the documentation indicates. The only defect was failure by all to file a written report, including the two supervisors present.

Compean emphasized that the failure to report the incident was considered minor given the outcome:

He (Aldrete-Davila) was already gone back south. I … really didn't … didn't think he had been hit. The way I saw him walking back south he looked … he looked fine to us and we just didn't … nothing was ever said as … as to don't say anything keep your mouth shut nothing like that was ever … was ever brought up either. We just … we just didn't bring it up. Compean's testimony emphasized supervisor Richards pressured him not to file a written report:

When we got back to the station it was the same thing he asked me and the way … the way I … the way he … he asked me ... he made it seemed like he wanted me to say no and that's why I said it. By denying he had been injured, Compean made it possible for Richards to avoid the trouble of filing a written report on the incident.

The issue about filing a written report, according to Compean's testimony, turned on his willingness not to mention the assault. The decision not to file a written report did not turn on wanting to hide the fact that shooting had taken place.

Moreover, Richards was well aware Compean had been injured in a scuffling match with Aldrete-Davila on the levee, when he wrestled the drug smuggler down. Compean did not even realize his hand had been cut until Richards pointed it out to him at the levee.

The Customs and Border Patrol manual mentions that the penalty for failure to report the discharge of a firearm or use of a weapon as required by the applicable firearms policy is a written reprimand, or at most a five-day suspension for the first offense. The manual makes no mention of the possibility of criminal punishment for failure to report the discharge of a weapon.

In a last, more belligerent section of the hearing, Barker charges, "There was a shooting where somebody was shot and NOTHING WAS SAID!" The capital letters were in the original transcript, probably reflecting Barker's emphasis.

Russell responds, according to the transcript: "That was an administrative violation on his part by not reporting it to the agency, yes, but on the same part the agency failed to act when it knew that an agent had been assaulted."

Then, Russell himself shouts out, "EMPLOYEES SAW IT," pointing out seven Border Patrol agents besides Ramos and Compean, including two supervisors, were at the scene.

According to the transcript, the pressure on Compean not to file a written report came from Richards, the senior supervisor on the field.

Richards was applying pressure on Compean not to report the assault, because that would have demanded paperwork.

Moreover, according to the hearing transcript, there is no record Richards ever mentioned to Compean the need to file a written report on the shooting.


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; compean; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; nifonged; ramos; sutton
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When this first started I was livid. I have friends in BP, and have lived on the border for 18 years. I have seen the horrible things that "Coyotes" (smugglers) do. BP have a thankless job and get stuck in the middle of many terrible situations. I could not understand why these two were not given the benefit of the doubt.

Then I started reading the DOJ information(http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/).

So it's either there was a GIANT conspiracy involving Federal Prosecutors, other Border Patrol agents, a Federal Judge, and 12 Jurors... or they might have done something they shouldn't have.

No matter what any conspiracy theorist here on FR says; in my opinion, it was their own words (and actions) that convicted these two. The jury found them guilty of shooting at a fleeing un-armed man... one they knew was unarmed (according to their own words). The jury found them guilty, not the President.

I respect the loyaly and passion of FReepers, but please don't be blinded. Study whats known and make your own informed decision.

Let's see, now where did I put my flame retardant suit?

61 posted on 02/07/2007 4:44:07 AM PST by Toadman ((molon labe))
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To: panthermom
Something is going on right in front of our faces regarding Mexico and illegals. Quite frankly it is downright scary.

I posted a sarcastic remark a few weeks ago that the Border Guards were impeding the flow of economic trade. I think I was more right than sarcastic, now. A loud and clear message is being sent to those guarding the border -- don't be too good at your job or you go to jail.

As I posted above, drug money buys off allot of people in high places. Maybe some of these Congresscritters should do an investigation and find out who are benefiting -- but that may involve some of their colleagues.
62 posted on 02/07/2007 4:52:37 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Filing the report was the supervisor's responsibility since they were on the scene and saw what happened. Here it is in the supervisors' own words from the article:

Russell indicates that management at Fabens themselves chose not to make a report about Compean's injury. Here is his testimony:

"Even management at the station in Fabens was fully aware of what had transpired and for whatever reason nothing was ever generated … and once all this comes forward, I mean, it's my belief even his attorneys' belief that even once that does come forward and all that information is presented that the charges will possibly be dropped … or dismissed … or he will be found not guilty … based on that … what did transpire."

Directly contradicting prosecutor Sutton's assertion that agents Ramos and Compean filed false reports, the April 2005 administrative hearing reveals Compean was forthcoming concerning the events of the incident.

In the second cassette, Russell makes clear that the reluctance to do more formal reporting after the incident came from supervisor Richards.

"But the fact of the matter is an assault did take place. Umm … Mr. Richards did know about it. Umm … whether Mr. Compean … Mr. Compean said yes sir to this or whether he was assaulted or not … doesn't negate Mr. Richards responsibility to take some action from the facts that were presented to him as to what happened out there."

He was on the scene. He was told by another agent exactly what had happened and it pretty much apparently stopped at that point.

Johnny Sutton needs to be indicted for Witness Tampering and Obstruction of Justice and his friend Alberto Gonzalez needs to resign pronto.

63 posted on 02/07/2007 4:53:04 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Man50D

BUMP!


64 posted on 02/07/2007 4:59:54 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Hoodat
Let the pardons begin.

I'm reasonably sure that there will be no pardons at this time.

The thing that everyone is missing here is a request for executive clemency. President Bush could commute their sentences. That would get them out of prison quickly - then they could apply for pardons in a few years.

65 posted on 02/07/2007 5:00:55 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Toadman
The jury found them guilty of shooting at a fleeing un-armed man... one they knew was unarmed (according to their own words).

Where are those words? Show me the transcripts.

66 posted on 02/07/2007 5:12:03 AM PST by P-Marlowe (What happened to my tagline?)
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To: Man50D

and where is Jorge Bush's pardon?

He has no problem pardoning DRUG RUNNERS but when it comes to Federal Agents doing their jobs...oh nooooooooo cannot pardon those men!!!


67 posted on 02/07/2007 6:03:14 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Toadman

"one they knew was unarmed"

Unless the guy was fully searched, who knows?


68 posted on 02/07/2007 6:06:48 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Man50D; Arizona Carolyn; Calpernia; CAluvdubya; christynsoldier; Cyropaedia; dennisw; Digger; ...

Ping!


69 posted on 02/07/2007 9:36:42 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Justice is blonde blind, yaknow.
70 posted on 02/07/2007 9:50:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: Man50D; Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; nomad; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; SandRat; ...

ping


71 posted on 02/07/2007 11:16:00 AM PST by Ladycalif (Ramos and Compean - We Are Safer When They Are Out)
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To: HAL9000

I like it!


72 posted on 02/07/2007 11:19:32 AM PST by HonestConservative (The soldier is the profession which permits all the others to exist.......Mark Steyn)
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To: P-Marlowe
The DOJ just admitted today they the agents never said that, they they lied,
73 posted on 02/07/2007 1:08:48 PM PST by Ladycalif (Ramos and Compean - We Are Safer When They Are Out)
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To: SkyPilot
One was just beaten within an inch of his life.

How many times do we have to see things like this before we can start blaming the pro-agent regulars for wanton disregard for the truth in their threads?

The news reports that he sustained "minor cuts and bruises".

74 posted on 02/07/2007 1:35:01 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Man50D
The stench coming from this one is overwhelming. The time for a full-on congressional investigation is long past.

Heads should roll, but not Ramos and Compean's.

75 posted on 02/07/2007 1:41:45 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Russell is not the supervisor. He's the UNION REPRESENTATIVE who was representing the agent's at the meeting in question.

The supervisor is not quoted at all in the story, because he is not part of the evidence WND listened to.

The entire WND article is based on testimony given by Compean and his Union representative when they were trying to get his job back.

It proves NOTHING except that, by May, Compean was saying that he told his supervisor. If you believe Compean is telling the truth, then you believe the headline. If you believe Compean is lying to save himself 10 years in prison, than the headline is false.

But nothing in the story provides any evidence for the headline or the conclusions drawn from the story -- it is simply a recounting of the accused's denials.


76 posted on 02/07/2007 1:41:49 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Man50D

The DHS report does not "document" a conversation, it provides one side's recollection of what happened in a conversation -- the agent Compean.

It's just Compean's attempt to get himself off the hook. It could be the truth, or not, but it's just his word to the investigators.

If we had quotes from the supervisor backing up this story, I would be both surprised, and willing to reconsider.


77 posted on 02/07/2007 1:43:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Man50D

Hell, forget about a pardon. This thing ought to be appealed and dismissed, pronto.


78 posted on 02/07/2007 1:44:55 PM PST by william clark (DH4WH)
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To: Man50D

BTW, this is one of the things that makes WND such a poor "new source". They wrote an entire article full of false assertions about what the evidence said, simply to push a cause they are advocating for.

They keep saying the memo shows somethig, proves something, contradicts something -- but the memo is nothing more than a supposedly factual report about what Compean said to investigators.

That would be like saying the Starr report refutes the claim that Clinton lied about Monica, because in the Starr report he provides quotes from Clinton where Clinton says he had nothing to do with Monica and was not lying about it.


79 posted on 02/07/2007 1:45:56 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Were the supervisors on the scene of the incident? Yes or No?


80 posted on 02/07/2007 1:53:35 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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