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How will Apple react to Vista?
TG Daily ^ | February 2, 2007 | Rob Enderle

Posted on 02/03/2007 6:52:37 PM PST by ShorelineMike

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To: ShorelineMike
How will Apple react to Vista?

By sending a Get Well Soon card?


21 posted on 02/03/2007 8:11:47 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Samoans: The (low) wage slaves in the Pelosi-Starkist complex.)
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To: Jorge

"Half of Macs? What is that, 2% of the market?"

It's former Microsoft Windows users, who chose to abandon the Windows operating system. That means Microsoft marketshare is declining, year over year.


22 posted on 02/03/2007 8:18:08 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Jorge

True, yet completely irrelevant.


23 posted on 02/03/2007 8:18:14 PM PST by Terpfen (Got a problem? It's now Pelosi's fault!)
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To: KarlInOhio
That is the dumbest advertisement inn the world.

It portrays Microsoft, which is by far the world leader as a nerd, and Apple which has always been the nipping at the marginal market remain as a really cool dude.

I can't believe what losers Apple advertisers are.

Next thing they're going to try is name-calling.

24 posted on 02/03/2007 8:23:45 PM PST by Jorge
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To: ShorelineMike

I cant recall ever seeing any Mac commercials before the Ipod gave them enough revenue to produce them.

The Mac is irrelevant ... I work in a brand new building with 200 engineers, mathematicians and scientists on one floor.

Not one Mac ...

We all love the commercials they are making, they are humorous and its funny to see the way Apple is poking fun at PCs ... but they can afford to make the commercials because our teens are buying $200 Ipods, not $2000 Macs.


25 posted on 02/03/2007 8:26:11 PM PST by dartuser ("Until they love their children more than they hate us, there will be no peace" Golda Meir)
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To: Jorge

Microsoft will notice. Where do you think they will get their ideas for Microsoft's next OS? They got all their ideas from Vista from OS X.


26 posted on 02/03/2007 8:46:21 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Jorge
Half of Macs? What is that, 2% of the market?

The Windows-to-Mac migration rate is currently about 3% of the total U.S. market. It was 2% last year, and 1% before that.

Vista may help Microsoft to lower the Windows abandonment rate for a while, but I've seen a lot of XP users on this forum who are saying they intend to upgrade to Macs instead.

27 posted on 02/03/2007 8:48:58 PM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Jorge
90% of the world's computers run Microsoft.

Their misfortune.

28 posted on 02/03/2007 8:49:30 PM PST by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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To: SteveMcKing
Is McDonald's food superior due to "billions and billions" being served?

What's funny is that I've never craved McDonald's more than after an esoteric gourmet meal. And many people I've talked to, like me, love that Double Cheeseburger for $1.

The closest Apple can come to a similar bang-for-the-buck is the new iPod Shuffle, which I bought for our Christmas gift exchange. I thought it was a great design and it was affordable.

29 posted on 02/03/2007 8:52:22 PM PST by avenir
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To: Jorge

Actually what's pathetic is that people on both sides can't see that comparisons between a horizontal trust (Microsoft) and a vertical trust (Apple) on the product in which the horizonatal trust is seeking a monopoly (operating systems for personal computers) always looks good for the horizontal trust.

Of course the Guggenheims (a vertical trust) not the magnates of the smelters trust (horizonta) are the ones we remember.

How big a share of the *computer* market does Microsoft control? 0% Apple controls 4% of the computer market *and* 4% of the OS market, and what percent of the retail music market? of the digital music player market?


30 posted on 02/03/2007 8:55:56 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: HAL9000
Vista may help Microsoft to lower the Windows abandonment rate for a while

Maybe, but I'm guessing that that slowing may be mitigated, or even halted by the segment of geeks that are savvy enough to be aware of what they're losing in Vista finally reach their personal limits with MS' increased DRM.

31 posted on 02/03/2007 8:56:23 PM PST by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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To: Jorge
I switched to macbook pro about 7-8 months ago... I've got 5 other HP machines in my house networked with the kids and wife....I'll switch each one of them over as the hard drive goes or the machines start getting wierd.

they play some games but mainly web search and excel/word/e-mail/photo/movie and slide presentations....

the kids are already bugging me to use my machine cause the I-tunes works better on my machine.

I think that Apple will always be a niche market... I'm just going to be in the niche. They work easier and I can do "stuff" easier.

I hook up peripherals and they don't crash my machine, need driver updates to unclog the messes.

it's not perfect but it's an nice alternative.

32 posted on 02/03/2007 8:58:00 PM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: MichiganMan
Their misfortune.

Save your pity. I love Microsoft and so does most the world.

33 posted on 02/03/2007 8:59:25 PM PST by Jorge
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To: ShorelineMike

Mac sux... Can't stand the stupid OS or the gay little machines.


34 posted on 02/03/2007 9:00:20 PM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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To: sionnsar
"I just don't like the in-your-face "lockdowns."

Same here. I bought a DVD Burner today. After installing it, I put in a DVD, and Windows Media Player wouldn't even play it. Some message regarding copyrights showed up, or it may have been licensing. It must be nice for the MPAA to have a big OS maker write software just the way they want it. I wonder how much the MPAA is paying them.

I then jut downloaded a media player that's far better than Windows Media Player anyway, so it's all good. =)

35 posted on 02/03/2007 9:09:08 PM PST by KoRn
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

36 posted on 02/03/2007 9:09:10 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: rrc
they'll claim their software is better (BUT NO ONE IS BUYING IT), they'll claim their hardware is superior (BUT NO ONE IS BUYING IT)and they'll continue to run those asinine commercials with that little bitch being a smug apple owner...

The commercials' characters are personifications of the computers... not owners. Each one starts with "Hi, I'm a PC" and "And I'm a Mac." which should give you a clue.

37 posted on 02/03/2007 9:18:41 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Jorge
'I can't believe what losers Apple advertisers are. Next thing they're going to try is name-calling.'
 

"Losers" is name-calling.

Next thing, you are going to try giving detailed technical arguments about the competing platforms.

Who are we kidding? You won't.

38 posted on 02/03/2007 9:19:25 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: HAL9000

"...but I've seen a lot of XP users on this forum who are saying they intend to upgrade to Macs instead."

That's what they say, but what will they DO? Of the people I run across looking for a new computer I cannot interest a single one in even looking at the iMac line. I even tell them to check them out the next time they're at Fry's (i.e. readily available). All I get is a glazed over look. And no point mentioning the laptops or the Mac Pro's, they're a no sell (though admired).

This ingrained apathy is not overcome by wishful thinking. Apple needs to get their butts into Costco, and have an affordable tower/monitor setup that sits next to those ugly Gateways. And if they want to push the iMac in lieu of that they darned well better start producing one with a tasteful gray exterior, perhaps like the Cinema Displays. Every time I look at one of those things they get more ridiculous looking (especially the 24" one).


39 posted on 02/03/2007 9:21:44 PM PST by avenir
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To: Jorge
Save your pity. I love Microsoft and so does most the world.

Oh I used to too, er, also.

DOS, Win 3.1, 3.11, WFW was a personal favorite of mine, then 98 and finally, MS's best desktop OS IMO, Win 2k. I bought that its first week in '99, and my copy is still running my mother's system. I stopped there and held fast.

There was no way in $*#& I was going to accept XP's requirement that I ask MS for permission to use my system after I legitimately paid for the OS, and again any time I exceeded its tolerance for hardware upgrades. "Please sir, may I have some more? By your grace of course, sir." And the restrictions upon the consumer have just grown more onerous since then. The king's subjects have become too used to kneeling.

I've been running Ubuntu Linux now for a year and a half. I thought I'd miss Windows, but I don't. Its going on my mothers system within the next month. Linux has finally reached the point where its actually preferable to Windows as a desktop OS for people of my expertise. Its not there for my mom yet, but its well within her capabilities if I walk her through it.

I know Linux doesn't have the market share, but aside from its variable affect on games, I don't see the effect.

40 posted on 02/03/2007 9:23:19 PM PST by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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