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Did "24" Go Too Far?
Townhall ^ | 1/22/07 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 01/22/2007 1:30:58 PM PST by presidio9

When the ABCNews.com column assignment arrived mid-morning --"Is the TV show "24" going too far by depicting a nuclear attack in Los Angeles in its opening episode?"-- the drama went out of tonight's two-hour program. Or so I thought. As zero hour approached, I found myself assuming that the program really wouldn't actually depict a nuclear detonation near Los Angeles. I noted as the show unfolded that the script had the doomsday scenario putting the casualties of such an event at somewhere north of a hundred thousand, a remarkably low estimate, and that no mention was made of the catastrophic impact of radiation sickness or the second level but still devastating impact to surrounding infrastructure, the immediate refugee problem, or the collapse of the national economy. Given that the consequences of such a blast, I found myself doubting that the program would risk absurdity by depicting a post-nuclear attack America far more simple than anyone has a right to conceive.

But blow the nuke, the writers did, and apparently there are four more where that came from. How Jack and gang deals with the aftermath remains to be seen --martial law at least from Bakersfield to San Diego, and from the Pacific to Vegas, perhaps, and a Dow 1200? -- But the question put to me remains: Did the program "go too far?"

Given that there are easily, oh, 10 million people in the world who would stand up and cheer at the real version of Monday night's fictionalized attack, and at least a few tens of thousands trying hard to do a deed of at least proportionate scale given the weaponry available, it is silly to argue that "it" couldn't possibly happen. Of course it could happen. Eventually another nuke will go off, and it is not likely to be the obvious action of a state actor. So what is the "too far" in the question supposed to mean? It can only be that "24" is engaged in fear-mongering, and that is as stupid a charge as can be made.

Would the BBC have been going "too far" if in 1937 it had broadcast a radio drama depicting life in a Hitler-authorized death camp where hundreds of thousands of Jews were being executed in gas chambers, one of a string of such camps springing up across Europe?

Would a Paris newspaper have been going "too far" if it had run a short story in 1913 supposing trench warfare that would claim millions of casualties?

Had PBS run a drama proposing a Communist massacre of millions of Cambodians in 1973 or a Rawandan genocide of more than a half million Tutsis twenty years later, would those prophecies have been going "too far?"

The problem of the last century was a failure in the imagining of evil, a failure which was in some ways evil's accomplice. "It can't happen" often masked the very unfolding of the too-awful-to-occur event.

So now a few people are shuddering that "24" has gone and done it: Blown up Los Angeles and left the most productive part of the national economy crippled and hundreds of thousands dead. An event much more likely to occur in our lifetime than any catastrophe unleashed by global warming has been put on the table (and the LCD) and suddenly tongues are wagging about responsibility.

"Israel must be wiped off the map," Iranian President Ahmadinejad has declared, and he's been repeating the same basic message for a couple of years. No "too far" language regarding him from the critics of "24" I'll wager.

It isn't "only a television show," and appeals to the First Amendment are beside the point. The key question is whether the drama is a bit of absurd science fiction, or the projection of a not-so-distant future, not in its particulars, but in its awful core depiction.

Americans don't like to think of such an attack upon America. But prior to 9/11, they didn't like to think of airplanes crashing into skyscrapers and thousands dead in a moment and the government within hours of being decapitated.

Give the producers another fistful of Emmys and settle in to see how Jack handles post-nuclear America. "OK, I think we can agree that this is a big step up from the canister plot," Dave Barry wrote on his blog in real time after the blinding flash, a reference to the rather labored plot from last year, and an indication that even the veteran humorist who has been dining out on "24" for the past few years to the delight of a huge audience was taken aback. A shock to many, an upsetting nightmare for others.

A depiction of a happy ending for our enemies.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 24; jackbauer; wot
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To: TomGuy
You are absolutely correct. The libs hate Fox News Channel and Fox in general. They are attacking "24" which is one of my favorites if not my favorite, American Idol is too mean.....next will be "House", "Bones" and any other show that they can criticize....on Fox of course.
121 posted on 01/22/2007 3:09:30 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: SandRat
"No they didn't go too far; They Didn't go FAR ENOUGH!"

No, they should use actual names and advocate the destruction of these pigbutt sucking sons of bi**hes.
122 posted on 01/22/2007 3:11:04 PM PST by lawdude (2006: The elections we will live to die for!)
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To: presidio9
...somewhere north of a hundred thousand, a remarkably low estimate, and that no mention was made of the catastrophic impact of radiation sickness...

Gee, the way I recall it, the script described the weapon as 1kt, with casualties somewhere north of a hundred thousand because of the secondary effects of the blast and radiation, making the estimate remarkably realistic, not low.

123 posted on 01/22/2007 3:11:22 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Indy Pendance
I'm surprised Hollywood hasn't made a war nurse's movie with Iraq as the backdrop.

There's a blockbuster in there somewhere. ;^)

124 posted on 01/22/2007 3:11:52 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: agincourt1415
I think it should be required viewing for every member of Congress.
125 posted on 01/22/2007 3:12:44 PM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: presidio9

To be accurate, if the show portrays Muslims nuking LA, it should also portray thousands of Muslims being lynched afterwards. Starting with the entire staff of CAIR


126 posted on 01/22/2007 3:19:31 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: presidio9

A million tourists in NYC every day? I find that hard to believe.


127 posted on 01/22/2007 3:21:02 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: Grut

Great little film there.


128 posted on 01/22/2007 3:22:16 PM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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To: bpjam
The idea that we would all have to move to Mexico and the picture of Mexican border agents holding back the hordes of Americans trying to invade our southern neighbor was pretty freakin' inflammatory if you ask me.

It was also ridiculous. The gun owning civilians of Texas and Arizona would exterminate the whole Mexican military within hours

129 posted on 01/22/2007 3:22:30 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: presidio9

and to think...

Weenie leftist would describe what you went through as torture, other than the fact that it was self inflicted.


130 posted on 01/22/2007 3:23:30 PM PST by rwilson99 (95% of Al-Jazzera Viewers Agree... the world is less safe (for them) since 9/11)
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To: massgopguy
Clancy had the chance. But he let the PC police in Hollywood change the bad guys in Sum of All Fears from Muslims to White Supremacists.

That was EXTREMELY annoying!! Neo Nazis wouldn't have to buy their nuke materials from Muslims; they could get all they want from sellers from former Soviet client states.

131 posted on 01/22/2007 3:24:35 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: puppypusher
Who will the dummies blame then?

Bush, of course!

132 posted on 01/22/2007 3:25:25 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: presidio9

HELP!! We had company when 24 was broadcast and had to TIVO both programs. We just realized that somehow we only watched the first 2 hours and didn't the second 2. AND we erased the programs. URGH!!

Isn't there another channel that rebroadcasts 24? Can anyone give me any information?


133 posted on 01/22/2007 3:31:02 PM PST by AUsome Joy
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To: DCPatriot
Hollywood won't make an Iraq movie unless it trashes Bush (or a republican president). The Hollywood of the 1930's-1940's isn't the same as today. Can you imagine an investigation into today's 'movie' directors in comparison to the 1950's commie craze? Oh, don't forget Roosevelt's 'censorship department'. Most of today's directors and associated actors would be thrown into the slammer today for 'aiding and abetting' the enemy. (of course, the political correctness today would prohibit it) Today, it's 'free speech', no matter what.
134 posted on 01/22/2007 3:31:15 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Gator113

Those are all valid points.


135 posted on 01/22/2007 3:35:31 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Indy Pendance
Clint Eastwood has the gravitas to pull off a movie such as we're discussing.

Mel made Passion of The Christ by himself, IIRC.

136 posted on 01/22/2007 3:35:31 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: montag813
Huh? Are you saying no Arab American can be a patriot? I was pleased with their depiction of the "CAIR" clone guy ratting out his fellow Muslims in detention. It is a great role model for Muslim viewers.

Screw CAIR and his ACLU wench! I'm sure there are plenty of Arab American patriots. They are more than likely not Muslim.


The depiction of a military corrections grunt who is a turncoat is also very feasible.

There are military/CTU turncoats in every season. How about Muzzie military turncoats. Oh, I've seen that one. Though the evil neighbor across the street was a nice touch.


This is what makes "24" a cut above. On pedestrian shows such as "Alias" everyone acts according to form. Life is not so simple.

Alias is retarded. Barney & Friends is more realistic.


"McClennan Forrester" (Season 4) was not "the villain". They were impeding CTU to cover their own ass, not to help the terrorists.

"Impeding" is a bit light wouldn't you say. Big oil was a villain another season, or big government (can't argue, they are the enemy). They are gratuitously anti-corporate...but so am I sometimes...Good Point.

 

 

 

137 posted on 01/22/2007 3:36:05 PM PST by King Moonracer (Chris Matthews on Hillary Clinton: Dukakis in a dress.)
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To: AUsome Joy

you can run out to Best Buy and buy the first four episodes for $10


138 posted on 01/22/2007 3:39:30 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: DCPatriot

And they were 'shunned' by the establishment.


140 posted on 01/22/2007 3:43:05 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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