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Nothing Flat About Tortilla Prices [Ethanol in USA]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/13/07 | Carolyn Said

Posted on 01/13/2007 8:15:33 PM PST by BunnySlippers

Prices for corn tortillas, a staple of Mexican diet and culture, are soaring south of the border.

Some tortilla prices in Mexico have risen as much as 60 percent, hurting the low-income people who depend on it as their basic food.

Elizabeth Rosas, a 20-year-old office cleaner in Mexico City, was discouraged to find that her usual tortilla shop this week raised the price of its corn tortillas from 8 pesos (73 cents) to 10 pesos (91 cents) a kilogram.

"My family doesn't have the budget to pay more for tortillas," said Rosas, who makes $40 a week and shares a two-bedroom apartment with her husband, five relatives and her newborn son. --- Just why tortillas cost so much remains murky.

Corn prices are spiking in the United States, with crop yields low and demand high. The production of the gasoline additive ethanol has taken off in the past year, consuming millions of bushels of corn. --- Mexico also said it will import 650,000 tons of white corn, mainly from the United States, to help lower tortilla prices. --- Some economists say the culprit could be globalization, as products around the world increasingly are linked in a complex supply chain.

"The price of oil is driving up the price of corn (because of increased ethanol production), which is driving up the price of tortillas," said Peter Navarro, a business professor at UC Irvine. "You push on one thing and another thing moves," added Navarro, the author of "If It's Raining in Brazil, Buy Starbucks."

He said the U.S. ethanol stampede could be thought of "as a regressive tax on Mexico, because it raises the price of a basic commodity. In economics, we call these general equilibrium effects. Something happens in one market and it ripples through other markets."

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Science
KEYWORDS: bigcorn; corn; economic; globalization; trade

1 posted on 01/13/2007 8:15:35 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: BunnySlippers

The formatting got messed up:

Prices for corn tortillas, a staple of Mexican diet and culture, are soaring south of the border.

Some tortilla prices in Mexico have risen as much as 60 percent, hurting the low-income people who depend on it as their basic food.

Elizabeth Rosas, a 20-year-old office cleaner in Mexico City, was discouraged to find that her usual tortilla shop this week raised the price of its corn tortillas from 8 pesos (73 cents) to 10 pesos (91 cents) a kilogram.

"My family doesn't have the budget to pay more for tortillas," said Rosas, who makes $40 a week and shares a two-bedroom apartment with her husband, five relatives and her newborn son.

---

Just why tortillas cost so much remains murky.

Corn prices are spiking in the United States, with crop yields low and demand high. The production of the gasoline additive ethanol has taken off in the past year, consuming millions of bushels of corn.

---

Mexico also said it will import 650,000 tons of white corn, mainly from the United States, to help lower tortilla prices.

---

Some economists say the culprit could be globalization, as products around the world increasingly are linked in a complex supply chain.

"The price of oil is driving up the price of corn (because of increased ethanol production), which is driving up the price of tortillas," said Peter Navarro, a business professor at UC Irvine. "You push on one thing and another thing moves," added Navarro, the author of "If It's Raining in Brazil, Buy Starbucks."

He said the U.S. ethanol stampede could be thought of "as a regressive tax on Mexico, because it raises the price of a basic commodity. In economics, we call these general equilibrium effects. Something happens in one market and it ripples through other markets."


2 posted on 01/13/2007 8:17:16 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers
Nothing can be done about this. Price controls would be disastrous. But it'll level out soon enough. Higher corn prices will motivate more to grow corn which will ultimately cause the price to go down.
3 posted on 01/13/2007 8:24:00 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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I thought NAFATA flooded Mexico with cheap American corn driving Mexicans off their land to become illegal immigrants. That was Bush's fault. Now they are entitled to cheap corn but can't get it due to bush's energy policy.


4 posted on 01/13/2007 9:46:57 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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I thought NAFATA flooded Mexico with cheap American corn driving Mexicans off their land to become illegal immigrants. That was Bush's fault.

I didn't know NAFTA did either of those things. I support free trade (or as close as we can come to it).
5 posted on 01/13/2007 10:09:13 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: BunnySlippers

It's a conspiracy I tell ya! Big Corn is in cahoots with Big Oil!


6 posted on 01/13/2007 11:47:20 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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who makes $40 a week and shares a two-bedroom apartment with her husband, five relatives and her newborn son

Viva Mexico! Glorious glorious Mexico.

7 posted on 01/13/2007 11:56:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Saddam Hussein Obama)
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Yes and no. Under NAFTA Mexico cut farm price supports, while the U.S. kept them (or, kept them under different names -- corporate tax breaks, fuel subsidies for farmers, export credits, etc.) And, U.S. farms are corporate businesses (Old McDonald works for Conagra or ADM or some other faceless big company, not for himself) while Mexican farms were still mom-n-pop enterprises.

Mexican farmers couldn't compete and left (often for the U.S., to work for Old McDonald, who's working for...) meaning there are less corn producers in Mexico to start with.

With the end of restrictions on agricultural imports to Mexico ending this year, it's gonna get even hairier.

So, yeah... in a roundabout way, it is NAFTA's "fault".

8 posted on 01/13/2007 11:56:42 PM PST by rpgdfmx
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The production of the gasoline additive ethanol has taken off in the past year, consuming millions of bushels of corn.

I don't care, unless it affects the price of bourbon. Then I'm mad!

9 posted on 01/14/2007 12:00:13 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Romney si! Rudy no!)
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To: rpgdfmx
I see. Then the eventual solution will be for Mexico to abandon the mom-n-pop model. There seems to be a lot of nostalgia (I'm not talking about you, but in general) for the small family farm. The mom-n-pop type of farm. And there's a lot of animosity for what many call "corporate farms". I have a completely different view on that. I think that huge farm operations are wonderful. They've brought the price of food down, it's more plentiful than ever, and there's more variety than ever.

There are nations in which this corporate farming hasn't taken hold but they're third world nations, and many of them are starving.
10 posted on 01/14/2007 12:23:03 AM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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And then there is mr in between. That is the successful independant farmer as opposed to the hilbillies who didn't know what they were doing and got squeezed out.


11 posted on 01/14/2007 4:58:11 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: BunnySlippers
But using corn for ethanol won't effect food prices!

Save the corn for tortillas (and good whiskey), drill ANWR.

12 posted on 01/14/2007 7:56:20 AM PST by SouthTexas (May you have a blessed and prosperous New Year.)
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Higher corn prices will motivate more to grow corn which will ultimately cause the price to go down

I bet you believe that corn can be grown in quantity just about everywhere.

And I bet you think it isn't fertilizer intensive.

13 posted on 01/14/2007 8:03:22 AM PST by tertiary01 (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".)
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There are nations in which this corporate farming hasn't taken hold but they're third world nations, and many of them are starving

Maybe if the Mexican mom and pop could get ahold of the same technology that the American Mom and Pop can, they could make a go of their farm, but that's not the plan is it? I bet your buds are down there gobbling up their abandoned farms as I post.

14 posted on 01/14/2007 8:09:50 AM PST by tertiary01 (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".)
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Rice, Beans and corn tortillas, food of the gods.


15 posted on 01/14/2007 8:16:22 AM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: tertiary01
Maybe if the Mexican mom and pop could get ahold of the same technology that the American Mom and Pop can, they could make a go of their farm, but that's not the plan is it? I bet your buds are down there gobbling up their abandoned farms as I post.

Hey man, you're on to us. Somehow you've managed to uncover our conspiracy to starve out the Mexicans and then rape them of their land. Amazing. I'd like to see what you think of the JFK assassination, Area 51, crop circles, Freemasonry, and the Jews.
16 posted on 01/14/2007 8:41:12 AM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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Somehow you've managed to uncover our conspiracy to starve out the Mexicans and then rape them of their land. Amazing.

We're on to your Marxist debating tactics......But... it's funny, my Mexican friend whose family lost their ranch in Michoacan due to continued obstruction in their efforts to farm it by the Mex Gov, says the same thing. He's legal BTW and saw the writing on the Mexican wall a long time ago. I thought he was nuts until I encountered the OBLers on this forum

17 posted on 01/14/2007 8:53:03 AM PST by tertiary01 (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".)
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No doubt agricultural policies are going to have to change... and they are. I don't think there's some "grand conspiracy" afoot, but that the people who think in terms of policy and macroeconomics and national goals and whatnot forget about Old McDonald and Jose Lopez... who may not have any other choice but to emigrate as a result -- to the Big City, or to the next country.

There are problems with corporate farming (beyond the financing) like it's intensive need for fertilizer and fuel that may not make the model that works in Iowa or Nebraska necessarily the one to use in Michoacán or Tlaxcala. The problem with these planners and international trade specialists is they tend to think "one size fits all". And they don't

18 posted on 01/14/2007 8:17:07 PM PST by rpgdfmx
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"It is typical of the intellectual confusion in the environmentalist movement that many of its more extreme activists attack the wicked capitalists and imperialists and related globalization while simultaneously pressurizing governments to implement policies that can only impoverish developing countries -- simply in order to pander to the prejudices of well meaning but ill-informed people in the rich countries or to the "power-seeking" agendas of bureaucrats." --A Poverty of Reason Wilfred Beckerman


19 posted on 01/19/2007 4:28:07 AM PST by RunningJoke
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To: BunnySlippers

UH OH! So much for the dollar menu at Taco Bell.


20 posted on 02/01/2007 5:04:06 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (I want my next President to have Balls!)
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