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Colorful Body Artwork is Bonding Some Families (Tattoos Bring Mom & Daughter Together)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | January 8, 2007 | Nikki KAtz

Posted on 01/08/2007 2:12:54 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

When Lori Nichols of Oregon, WI was in her late 20s, she once asked her mom to baby-sit without revealing where she was going.

"When I got back hours later, I showed her why she was watching the kids," Nichols said, turning to show off the red rose she had tattooed on her shoulder.

"I thought she'd be mad, but she was jealous," Nichols said. "(I didn't know) my mom always wanted a yellow rose . . . She wanted one, but she was stuck with (my dad) for so long."

Ever since her mom died in September 2004, Nichols has wanted to get a yellow rose to accompany the red rose on her shoulder. Or maybe on her right arm, opposite the ram's head on her left arm that she got in honor of her younger brother Chad, who died one day after their mom, and sported a ram tattoo.

Nichols' daughter, Amber Dawson of Stoughton, is on the same page. Not long after her 18th birthday in August, Dawson decided to get a picture of two angels on her left shoulder to represent her maternal grandmother and uncle.

"(Their deaths) affected our family so much, and I just wanted to honor them," Dawson said. "One of my close friends is not very supportive of it. She says there are other ways I could've remembered them, but this is the way I choose to do it . . . I want them to look over my shoulder and protect me."

Madison's 10 tattoo parlors draw young adults and adults alike to invest in body art. Just look around, and you'll see it everywhere, on everyone, from elderly women to teens who don't look quite of-age. Dawson said she's already planning her next tattoo, possibly a Virgo symbol on her foot.

"I guess when they say they're addicting, they're not lying," she said, glancing at her mom.

"I can't say nothing," Lori said, laughing. "I have more than two.

"It's a person's choice, and I truly believe that," she added. "She's 18, and it's her choice to make."

A bonding experience

Seated in the lobby of Ultimate Arts Tattoo, Nichols seems like one of those cool moms even a high schooler would have no problem hanging out with. She and her daughter look alike, both peering out through their eyeliner under their blonde hair. Dawson said she appreciates her mom more now than ever before.

But the two haven't always been so close. Dawson moved out of her mom's Stoughton house just a couple weeks after her 18th birthday. She said they "weren't on good terms."

Dawson attributes their tattoos in part for their new closeness.

"I was afraid she wouldn't come (to my tattoo sessions)," Dawson said. "It means a lot that she did."

When asked if they would ever consider getting matching tattoos, Nichols and Dawson giggled.

"We actually really do have the same taste," Dawson said, shifting her eyes to her mom. Nichols smiled.

How the kids are doing it

Teens less patient than Dawson find ways to get around Wisconsin's law prohibiting minors from getting tattoos.

Mike Spangler, the owner of Ultimate Arts Tattoo, 3236 Commercial Ave., Madison, said minors frequently get tattoos at "tattoo parties," house parties at which low-quality or failed tattoo artists work, often not carrying out the proper cross-contamination procedures. Considering health risks like HIV and hepatitis, Spangler stressed, "Parents need to be scared of this."

Spangler said tattoo parlors that take minors are not much better.

"Someone younger than 18, if they find a studio, it can't be a high-quality place," he said. "They're probably untrained, and with the health issues, it's most likely regrettable."

His advice? "Do not let (minors) get a tattoo. Period."

Spangler said his two stepchildren begged to get underage tattoos, but he didn't crack. When the oldest, now 21, got a tattoo on his 18th birthday, Spangler said it meant a lot more to him after having to wait.

"It's kind of a rite of passage," he said. " Everyone's got to move from childhood to adulthood somehow. It's a step from what you can do as a kid to what you can do as an adult."

Ultimate Arts Tattoo employee Tonia Weber, 26, said teens are more likely to do something they'll regret later.

Weber, who specializes in tattoo removal, has seen quite the range of regretted tattoos in her six years at the parlor. She said the worst were usually adolescent decisions.

"I once did a woman who's now a mother of four, but when she was 16, she got crosses up and down on her arm," Weber said. "She came in and said, 'This is just not me.'

"Another woman had a smiley face on her entire back all done with needle and thread. It was pretty shoddy, and she was pretty adamant about having it gone. Of course, she was 16 when she got it."

Removal is illegal for minors except for laser removal by a physician and a judge's mandate, which usually regards gang tattoos. To remove a tattoo in the shop, Weber has to penetrate cells with a machine to liquefy the solidified tattoo ink. She said it was a "difficult and painful process," not to mention expensive. Removing a small tattoo costs at least $50, and Weber charges $100 per hour for a large one. Laser removal can cost thousands of dollars and often takes seven to 10 sessions.

Considering the consequences, Weber said she thinks getting a tattoo at a party is "really sad."

"I don't think there's any thought put into it," Weber said. "They're drunk, so they do something stupid . . . They're just going to spend more money to get it fixed later."

More mainstream

With 11 tattoos, Weber said she doesn't plan on stopping anytime soon. She has a "sleeve" tattoo down her entire left arm and she's getting her entire right arm done as well. She said she's run into some really negative responses with which she disagrees.

"Someone that says a tattoo is gross...is ignorant," Weber said. "Some people are very accepting. The non-accepting ones are back in the 1960s, thinking they use gross needles."

Weber said her visible chest and arm tattoos have really affected her public life.

"I can't go into a store with a short sleeved shirt without someone coming up to me and grabbing my arm or saying 'that's cool,'" she said. "It's a real lack of private or personal space.

"You might be the only person with a tattoo in a room of a hundred people, and they're going to notice. They'll say, 'Oh my god, this person is weird or different.' We still get labeled a little bit."

But Spangler said that's all changing. With the sleeves of his fleece pushed up and eloquent speech, the only evidence that Spangler might be the "type" to have a tattoo is his long hair and ear piercing. He said a large percentage of his clients are professionals, citing police officers, doctors and professors. He said he thinks that as tattoos are becoming more common, parents of teenagers are becoming more comfortable with them.

"Parents are much more lenient when it comes to tattoos," he said. "It's more mainstream...most of the parents have them."

Body piercer Michael Beale, who's worked at Steve's Tattoo and Body Piercing, 1205 Williamson St., for four years, agreed.

"A lot more families come into the store," Beale said. "Dads and moms bring their kids in on their 18th birthday . . . It's probably because of cleanliness. They'd just rather bring their kid in here than have them get it done in their buddy's garage."

Beale said the shop gets a few calls a year from happy parents, which sometimes take the employees off-guard.

"Just a few weeks ago, this girl's dad called and said, 'Is the manager there?' and I'm thinking 'Oh, no,' " Beale said. "But he said, 'Just tell him so-and-so's dad wanted to call and say thanks.' "

High school tattoos

It seems Stoughton High School has embraced the prevalence of tattoos. The school newspaper annually features a matching game between pictures of tattoos and students' names.

"When you're a senior, you're 18, and (tattoos) are accepted," Dawson said.

As senior class principal of La Follette High School, Kelly Lynaugh said she's seen it all in the hallways - tattoos and piercings "wherever they find to put them."

"Parents feel it's the right of the student to express their feelings," Lynaugh said, pointing out that she thinks parents are still "more OK with" piercings than tattoos.

Like most Madison public high schools, La Follette doesn't have many regulations about either one. The only rule the administration enforces is that body art displaying inappropriate words be covered. One student, Lynaugh said, has to wear long pants everyday because he has a curse word tattoo on his calf. Lynaugh said all types of students have tattoos, from those with discipline or academic problems to those who get straight-As.

"It's across the board," she said.

"I think tattoos have always been attractive to younger people because of the rebellion aspect of them," said Beale, who's getting a "body-suit" tattoo to cover almost his whole body.

Beale said the only tattoo he regrets is the wedding ring tattoo he got six years ago. Now that he's divorced, he's planning to get it lasered off.

"That's the thing," he said. "I would tell teenagers who are going to get a tattoo to choose something they want for life."


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Society
KEYWORDS: culturewar; frbigots; parentsnotfriends; skankitude; strippermommy; trailertrashtats; trampstamp
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To: HOTTIEBOY

You and I've discussed her dancing before----

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pA5CTHQPys
This REALLY shows off her tats!

As for the shells, I got the crap beat out of me once at a workshop by standing next to a girl with those shell things....


121 posted on 01/09/2007 12:27:42 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Oh yeah,
How is Punkbitch?


122 posted on 01/09/2007 12:40:04 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: najida

He's still a punk.

Now he likes barking at food. HotRod gets mad cause punkbitch wants to wrestle all the time. he knows when HotRod is serious though.

HotRod still wants me to have a talk with Punkbitch about this humping thing. HotRod don't roll like that...


123 posted on 01/09/2007 12:54:55 PM PST by HOTTIEBOY ("dingleberry" LOL! You guys crack me up.....)
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName; justche
Nice home page.

I don't know. Seems a bit obsessive with the loads of old fashioned crime and punishment stuff. Comments Justche?

124 posted on 01/09/2007 2:04:43 PM PST by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: scan59

Do you have reading comprehension problems or did you read the first couple of sentences too?


125 posted on 01/09/2007 2:08:50 PM PST by justche (When moderators aren't anonymous, I'll consider donating again.)
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To: Bosco

They are cute when you are young, but a 60 year old woman with a tatoo has got to look ridiculous. I will never get a tatt.


126 posted on 01/09/2007 2:11:27 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: SmithL

My father-in-law got one on his forearem during WWII. It was so distorted that you couldn't even till what the picture was.


127 posted on 01/09/2007 2:12:55 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: Jaysun

Points should also be awarded for those that wear hats

So every girl on a ski slope is a ho? That can't be right.


128 posted on 01/09/2007 2:15:44 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: justche
Do you have reading comprehension problems or did you read the first couple of sentences too?

Perhaps. I just didn't understand the correlation. (I did gather that you're pretty pissed off about something.) That's why I asked for your comments. Was fairly sure there was a point behind it all. Maybe you were making a statement about those who complain that today's punishments are too harsh? If so, I agree 100%.

I will never be quiet when people defend child molesters and sexual predators from having to register to protect other people.

To the poster that argues that we use the Constitution as toilet paper by having sex offender registries, may I suggest going back to the law of the Framers time in it's entirety?

129 posted on 01/09/2007 2:16:04 PM PST by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I used to have my nose pierced. I think they are cute. I'm thinking about getting it done again before I am too long in the tooth.


130 posted on 01/09/2007 2:18:08 PM PST by brwnsuga
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I once knew of a girl who had her boyfriend's name tattooed on her upper back. He went to prison. Her next boyfriend "made" her "X" the name out and replace it with his just below. Then the first boyfriend got out of jail, beat up the other guy, and repeated the process.

Poor girl didn't have much self esteem, that's for damn sure. She looked like an abused kitten.

131 posted on 01/09/2007 2:25:30 PM PST by scan59 (No matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: scan59
there was a point to it - same point to my tag line. There's a lot of suspensions and banning and moderation around here without background information and with others twisting words. So if we want to go back to the Framer's time and the complete intent of the laws as they were set up, then we need to go back to the punishments as well. We sure wouldn't see the recidivism that we see now with child molesters and sexual predators (that try to hide at FR behind "framer's intent")
132 posted on 01/09/2007 2:46:19 PM PST by justche (When moderators aren't anonymous, I'll consider donating again.)
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To: pandoraou812; Diana in Wisconsin; conservativebabe
I have a good friend that is an amazing tattoo artist and his artwork blows me away. I'd personally never get a tat, but I do appreciate a tasteful tat on another person. While I generally think it's a smarter option to get a small tattoo that you can cover up, I don't make personally evaluations about a person judged on just the fact that they have a visible tattoo. To me it's all about the design/size of the tat, the positioning of the tat and the way the tattee chooses to display the tat.

If I see cuss words, bizarre and/or excessive artwork covering large parts of the body on any gender all I can think is white trash.

If I see a woman with a tattoo above her butt crack, wearing pants that are low enough to show off her butt crack, then the nicest thing that comes to my mind is skank.
133 posted on 01/09/2007 3:52:57 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: Elyse
To each his own I guess. I don't wear anything where my butt crack would show anyway and even if I wasn't too old to be dressing like that I wouldn't anyway. ....I really think that most people don't THINK enough before they get a tattoo. I think you need to say to yourself can I live with this forever, will it ever come a time its going to stop me from getting a job. Or like some of my daughters friends have had to get them airbrushed from their wedding pictures. ...I also think just random tats here and there of silly things don't look good either. Example, a Mickey Mouse, then a tribal band, then a dragon etc. I don't think that looks too good on a women but thats just me. I think for me staying with butterflies and flowers was a good idea. My back looks really good and I have yet to hear otherwise. But you can only see my tats if I wear a bathing suit.....I see many moms and grandmothers who put their children and granchildren's names on their shoulders or back. I am tired of defending tattoos , if you want one get some education on them and who is doing them before you get ink. Plain simple good advice I think. .....Just because a girl may have that 'tramp stamp' doesn't make her a skank. She may turn around see you and think you are a loser. Now I am not calling you one at all because your post was right to the point and a good one. But what if the girl you fall in love with and is everything you could want has one.....would that tat stop you from marrying or loving her?
134 posted on 01/09/2007 4:16:26 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812
But what if the girl you fall in love with and is everything you could want has one.....would that tat stop you from marrying or loving her?

Well...I can guarantee that I would NEVER entertain the thought of falling in love with that tattooed girl, let alone think of marrying her, because I'm not gay!

I'm mainly talking about first impressions when people are still strangers to you. I realize that people do stupid and/or unwise things at different points in their life like getting ugly tattoos and I am not so close minded that I would not give them a fair chance to show me their true character.

But, I think a woman would have a hard time proving to me that she is just a nice, sweet girl if she is walking around displaying a tattoo in a trashy sexual manner. If I was a guy it would make me think twice about even approaching a girl that was walking around accentuating parts of her body in that way, unless of course I was just after getting the milk without buying the cow.

135 posted on 01/09/2007 4:56:36 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: scan59

That is one of the saddest things I've ever heard of...


136 posted on 01/09/2007 5:05:25 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Elyse
Well...I can guarantee that I would NEVER entertain the thought of falling in love with that tattooed girl, let alone think of marrying her, because I'm not gay

I AM VERY SORRY!! What point I was trying to make was a what if..... And your post makes sense without being mean or crude. Please accept my apologies. I do wonder how many men might not see a tattoo , fall in love and find out the woman of their dreams had one, would they drop her? ~~Pandora ~~
137 posted on 01/09/2007 5:08:27 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812
As for fat grandmothers ..... I think so many women are afraid to age that its silly. I am a grandmother and I am proud of it. But I do believe in aging gracefully.

Are you saying that fat women can't grow old gracefully? I'm working on it. I embrace my age...I love my age. That doesn't change because I'm fat.

138 posted on 01/09/2007 5:11:30 PM PST by bannie
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To: bannie

Not by any means am I saying anything about fat...I could lose some weight too, I don't have the body I did at 20 years old nor do I think I would want it. ....I was talking about the women who just can't face the fact they are aging and will do anything they can to stop it. Or the women who don't want to grow old so they act like they are teenagers again. Thats a sad thing....... There was a post on FR the other day about a woman who was 47 yrs old, had a myspace, and took her 15 yr old daughter clubbing. She loved to go clubbing it was her hobby. She got so drunk that she drove down the wrong way on a highway, hit a man and killed her daughter's 16 yr old friend. Thats the kind of women I am talking about not you by any means. If you thought that I am very sorry . ~~Pandora~~


139 posted on 01/09/2007 5:19:57 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812

:-) We're good.


140 posted on 01/09/2007 5:23:05 PM PST by bannie
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